• PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
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    19 days ago

    !rcv@ponder.cat

    Any third party that’s telling you to vote for them under FPTP, but isn’t heavily promoting RCV to fix the system, isn’t trying to win. They’re trying to spoil the FPTP election.

    RCV is already law in a surprisingly large number of places. It may change the majority in the house in this upcoming election, because the difference in vote-counting within the two states that use it for US congressional elections might be enough to change the razor-thin outcome.

    RCV is on the ballot, in one form or another, in 7 states and DC this year. Go vote. You might be able to fix the system, and move toward the future that all the people in this thread who are being vocal about Jill Stein say that they want. Remember back when marijuana was illegal? That changed. This can change too, and it would be glorious, for a lot of important goals that a lot of people claiming to support Jill Stein claim they’re supportive of. It would be practical and realistic. It would work.

    Anyone in this thread who is saying Jill Stein is extremely important, but haven’t been saying anything about ranked choice voting or changing the voting system to make third parties realistic: Why? What’s your goal, why did you make that decision about your priorities?

    The answer is obvious, of course. But it’s fun to ask.

    @anticolonialist@lemmy.world, why?

    I’ll add more @s as more people pipe up. They always do.

    Register and vote, for RCV as well as for Harris. We have 25 more days.

    https://www.vote.org/

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        19 days ago

        I didn’t ask whether David Doonan had published a press release on a janky web site which was mostly complaining about Democrats trying to remove Green Party members from the ballot, in this FPTP election. This also somehow finds a way to blame the lack of RCV on the Democrats, when a lot of them support it. Here’s a list:

        https://fairvote.org/our-reforms/ranked-choice-voting/endorsers/

        I don’t see any Green Party people there. I have never heard Jill Stein talk about it, and I’ve heard her say a bunch of things. That’s strange to me. But regardless of that, that’s not what I asked. I also didn’t ask whether you plan to vote for Kamala Harris. My question was:

        Anyone in this thread who is saying Jill Stein is extremely important, but haven’t been saying anything about ranked choice voting or changing the voting system to make third parties realistic: Why? What’s your goal, why did you make that decision about your priorities?

        Do you want to answer that question? You don’t have to. You can change the subject again, if you’d like to.

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          19 days ago

          Green Party and Jill Stein has been talking about RCV way before for Democrats ever started talking about it. And I’m kind of doubting that you listen to anything that anybody, says except for the dnc

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    19 days ago

    “Once noble party” - ffs.

    Jill Stein is a bad actor in this election, she understands how the electoral college works and she understands she’s weakening the democratic party position. But let’s not blame shift - the Democrats could be much better on climate change then they are today and if they were better Stein’s BS wouldn’t have such an easy time attracting voters. I dislike the title posing it as “Stein may hand Trump the whitehouse again.”

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        Why aren’t you so noisy during primaries?

        Oh that’s right, your true intentions are masked by bullshit.

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        19 days ago

        So you’re saying that Jill Stein, the Russian asset who is actively working to get Donald Trump elected president, represents you and your group?

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          19 days ago

          They need to earn votes.

          The Senate investigated that dinner and found nothing. Everything you don’t like isnt always Russian

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            lol, what a stupid way to say “yes, Jill Stein and her active campaign to get Donald Trump elected does support my values”

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              19 days ago

              Third parties wouldn’t be a threat to their power if they weren’t shit parties.

              Why don’t liberals vote for Trump and push him left after the election, since that worked out so well with Biden.

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    18 days ago

    Preemptively rolling out that “Democrats losing is the fault of everyone except the Democrats” narrative, again.

    Must have seen the MN polling numbers…

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    19 days ago

    That’s a weird way to say “Harris ticket fails to motivate voters to their side”

    To clarify, Stein is a literal compromised grifter.

    So is most of the RNC. I remember that 4th of July emergency flight to Moscow to hand deliver a letter to Putin.

    It’s not hard to beat these people. Unless you’re liberal I guess.