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6 hours agoIf you can’t pay for housing, you can’t pay for health care, mental or otherwise and in the US, that’s the barrier to entry.
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Finland also has universal health care which the United States does not have. You guarantee people will get the mental and physical health treatment they need, the US refuses to do that.
Again, you could try reading the sources already provided and quoted above. Here, I’ll bold the important part just for you:
“Housing First forbids requiring beneficiaries, as a condition of receiving assistance, to attend drug rehabilitation programs, look for work, or even take their mental health medicines as directed by a doctor. They can accept services that might be—and often are—offered, but they are under no enforceable obligation to do so. If they take drugs, refuse work, or even are charged with crimes, housing is still available to them.”
Under a housing first model, they legally cannot require prospective residents enter treatment as a condition of housing.
That’s literally the definition of “Housing First” and why it’s doomed to failure.
They can’t turn away someone who is in treatment, which is great, but they can’t demand someone enter treatment, which is the failure point.
If addicts are given a choice without consequence, they will choose to feed the addiction, they won’t seek treatment. That’s the nature of addiction. They aren’t going to make the right choice of their own volition.
Oregon saw this with the utter failure of Measure 110… Let’s legalize drugs, if someone gets caught with drugs, we’ll give them a choice:
- A $100 ticket with no enforcement.
- Call a toll free number and ask about treatment. You don’t have to actually ENTER treatment, just call the number and ASK about it.
16,000 people ticketed. Care to guess how many people chose option #2?
"The agency did get the hotline set up, but had only received 119 calls related to the drug treatment program as of June 2022, at an estimated cost to the program of more than $7,000 per call.
Of those calls, only 27 people were interested in drug treatment resources."
12·8 hours ago- Biden was willing to let the charges stand right up until Trump got elected and started talking about how he was going to pardon everyone from 1/6 onward.
“Oh, so he’s going to abuse pardon power? Fine, fuck it, Hunter gets a pardon.”
The fix for this is super simple, you get people healthy BEFORE getting them into housing.
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You collect up all the homeless people and evaluate them.
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Folks with mental illness are diverted to treatment.
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Folks with addiction issues are diverted to treatment.
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Folks with outstanding warrants are sent to corrections.
NOW…
Once people successfully complete treatment or have served their prison time, there needs to be a re-integration system, this applies also to homeless people who aren’t part of 2-4.
- Job and clothing assistance. Resume building, job skills, access to laundry, a mailing address, phone, email and internet.
There needs to be specialists here specifically to help people with criminal records.
- NOW you bring in the housing assistance. You’ve given people the skills they need to get healthy, avoid addiction, and get a job. Now they’re ready for housing. Not before.
As in step 5, there needs to be housing specialists just for people with criminal records.
If you put housing first, with no requirements for mental health or addiction services, it fails. Over and over and over again, it fails.
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You rejected the other sources on this, you reject a local source on this, I’m not sure how many sources you want before you’ll accept Housing First doesn’t work.
If you want a journal, they’re out there too…
In fact, if you had bothered to look at the footnotes on the very first source I gave you:
https://ciceroinstitute.org/research/housing-first-is-a-failure/
“Yet studies have now shown that simply providing people subsidized housing does not reduce drug use, and often encourages it, which makes sense because there is no mandated treatment in PSH and the free unit provides people with more money to pursue their habits.[10]”
You would have seen the sources cited such as:
[10] “Rebecca A. Cherner, et. al., “Housing First for Adults with Problematic Substance Use,” Journal of Dual Diagnosis 13 (2017); Tsai, J., Kasprow, W.J., & Rosenheck, R.A. Alcohol and drug use disorders among homeless veterans: Prevalence and association with supported housing outcomes. Addictive Behaviors, 39 (2014): 455-460;”
But you aren’t interested in the articles telling you what the papers say, you definitely won’t be reading the papers either.
That’s EXACTLY the problem with Housing First. Legally they are prevented from placing restrictions on the housing.
So they can’t demand residents enter treatment, remain sober, take their meds or even obtain proper meds.
It’s housing without restrictions and that plainly does not work if the people you are housing have severe mental illness and addiction issues.
Would you prefer a local take? It’s the same story over and over again:
You bring a bunch of people with mental illness and addiction issues into one place, without mandating treatment, you are CONCENTRATING the problem, not solving it.
Oh, he definitely wasn’t neutral, no father could be, that’s why I say he was trying to avoid the APPEARANCE of not being neutral. ;)
Now that Trump has won and is talking crazy shit, there’s no need to maintain appearances.
No, my version is retributive.
“Oh, Trump won? Fuck it, Hunter gets a pardon.”
Portland in general needs a large dose of common sense if we want to have a livable city.
Biden allowed the prosecution of Hunter to avoid the appearance of not being neutral.
Now that Trump has won and a) is openly talking about pardoning anyone and everyone and b) wanting to prosecute his enemies list, it 100% makes sense to beat him to the punch and pardon Hunter.
If Kamala had won, he would have let it all stand.
If Kamala had won, Hunter would not have been pardoned.
Biden pardoned him because of all the bullshit pardons Trump is talking about.
“You know what, fine, fuck it, Hunter gets a pardon.”
The gun indictment was revealed as part of his tax investigation.
Kinda like when they investigated Clinton for Whitewater and found out he lied about a blowjob.
In both cases, the crimes are rarely prosecuted. The only reason they were prosecuted was because Clinton is Clinton and Hunter is Hunter.
^ THIS
“It insults the intelligence of the American people to compare misdemeanor tax charges to a scheme to steal Top Secret documents and obstruct justice when the government asked for them back,” he tweeted, comparing the charges against Hunter Biden to the recent federal indictment against former President Donald Trump. “If anything, Hunter Biden was treated harshly — those crimes are rarely charged.”
Because right now, Housing First doesn’t demand treatment. That’s why it doesn’t work.
It doesn’t even demand you fill prescribed medication and take it on schedule, hell, it doesn’t even require you get evaluated for prescribed medication.
So you get stories like the above, a housed undiagnosed mental patient filling their home with garbage and living in terror from things that aren’t there.
Stable being “no longer collecting garbage and seeing faces on the walls”.
In the case cited above, the guy had housing but was still in a mental health crisis. Housing First cannot and will not provide that stability, only professional mental health care can do that.
This is simply the latest case, it’s not an edge case.
https://ciceroinstitute.org/research/housing-first-is-a-failure/
“We’ve built over 200,000 new PSH units for the homeless, as they’re known, and, since 2013, the federal government has mandated the Housing First strategy nationwide. Yet since that nationwide mandate has gone into effect, we’ve seen street homelessness increase by almost a fourth. While some advocates cite the overall decline in homelessness since the early 2000s, they ignore that the entire decline was the result of moving people from “transitional” government housing, which was counted as homeless, to “permanent” government housing, which was counted as not homeless. In effect, if one ignores this statistical smoke show, homelessness has gone up almost one-to-one with the increase in permanent housing.”
https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2023/07/90060/
"Housing First forbids requiring beneficiaries, as a condition of receiving assistance, to attend drug rehabilitation programs, look for work, or even take their mental health medicines as directed by a doctor. They can accept services that might be—and often are—offered, but they are under no enforceable obligation to do so. If they take drugs, refuse work, or even are charged with crimes, housing is still available to them.
That’s like putting a bandage on an inflamed wound without also applying medicine to heal the underlying infection. As a result, many of the unhoused receiving Housing First benefits make no effort to turn their lives around, leaving them mired in dysfunction and dependence."
"In its worst iteration, Housing First is a no-strings-attached approach. Beneficiaries receive housing and don’t need to attend job training programs or agree to a sober lifestyle. It’s a well-intentioned approach, but it simply isn’t working.
Since 2019, California has spent $24 billion on homelessness programs, even mandating all state-funded programs to adopt the Housing First model. Homeless resource centers aren’t allowed to make housing conditional on participation in addiction recovery or job training programs. Yet chronic homelessness in the state keeps climbing.
In Utah, Housing First has been the de facto approach since 2005. Yet from 2017 to 2022, the number of chronically homeless skyrocketed 328%. "
It boggles my mind how you ignore repeated direct responses to your questions, almost like you aren’t actually interested in the answers…
Here it is again, 3rd time on one source, 2nd time on the other. Do I need to use smaller words?