I just want to take a moment to say the “Biden was no better than Trump” crowd can go fuck themselves.
These things are always so annoying and uncritical. They are not wrong that the democrats are a conservative party, but that is still where the current progressive movement lives.
I think there is a bit of a trap in seeing the maga rise as a monolith, but I think there are two main wings. The evangelical side and the libertarian side. They might have some overlap, but their motivations and goals are still rather distinct. The important take away for this short essay of sorts is that they have agreed on enough points to move the overton window to get large parts of what they want. For the evangelicals it is abortion bans and ten commandments in schools. In the libertarian wing it is DOGE (inspired by the libertarian president in argentina)
Tankies and others who say “Biden was no better than Trump” are really messing up our ability to have a leftist/progressive party. In either growing it with-in the dems or starting from scratch. I want to understand what they are saying, but it is frustrating how unserious they are in actually achieving goals.
No no, you see, voting for Biden would be voting for this too, somehow. Because they are part of the same system, or something? Both sides same and all that.
Honestly the mental gymnastics are too much for me to effectively work out into a distilled comment.
Nobody claimed that
Literally millions of people claimed that
Only republican cultists
What are you accomplishing right now?
If you don’t own a gun, its time to get one, regardless of your stance on them. This is martial law without having to call it that.
Gavin Newson specifically said that he did not ask for or need the 2,000 troops and that sending to LA would only make things worse.
Sooo, there’s that.
Legally I believe the National Guard must be mobilized for a legal reason and until Trump has identified an actual cause, he cannot mobilize them himself. So Newson should just order them to stand down.
Newson hasn’t done that though.
These people are protesting against extrajudicial deportation, deporting children, harassing legal immigrants, the Nazi government, etc.
It’s not a fucking immigration protest. They didn’t deploy the military for immigration protests. People spoke out against Nazis and the military was called in.
Yeah, it’s no longer an “immigration protest”. It’s a NAZI protest.
2000 Guardsmen. For a city of 3 million. And a governor who doesn’t want them there. Sure. Good luck with that.
Funny how he doesn’t hesitate here, but when Congress was literally in danger of being fucking lynched on Jan 6, he didn’t do shit.
Shit MAGA creating their version of Tiananmen Square. I guarantee the fucking CCP and Russians are smiling.
Doesn’t the California National Guard report to the Governor?
Normally yes, but the president has the power to federalize National Guard troops in extraordinary circumstances. That power hasn’t been exercised since 1965 though. Until now.
Doesn’t trump lose horribly every time he goes after CA?
He’d have better luck waiting for something to go down in the Midwest, but yeah, w/e good luck.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Ocean_Resort_Baja_Mexico
He fucked up every investor by around $200,000.0 each. Lots of love for this guy to go around. Somehow he keeps buying into higher and higher places. Purchasing the seat of the US presidency may not be the end…China has a heck of a lot of people to fuck with!
Especially in a town known for its history of riots. LA is ready to kick some nazi ass at a moments notice.
Yeah, this is fucking depressing. Anyone wanna fight about Linux distros?
Not much of a fight when I use ARCH
Biebian or Hannah Montana Linux
TempleOS
Biebien and Hannah Montana Linux are affronts to god, whereas TempleOS is a tribute.
Linux Mint Master Race, reporting.
It just werks.
Ill do you one better. Windows is superior to Linux! (N.b. this comment is strictly to cause a ruckus)
Agents provocateurs spotted! The top comment guy was right all along!
Pfff, Amiga OS rules. (nb never used it, but but you asked for ruckus.)
Naaaaaw. Commodore 64 all the way. KCman is still the shit
I use ARCH btw
There is a good reason not to follow unconstitutional orders.
The question is what will convince individual troops and units that their orders are illegal. Disobeying orders isn’t something the military takes lightly. In theory a court order should be proof enough, but who knows these days.
Ill juat leave this here.
https://girightshotline.org/en/military-counseling-news-updates/if-your-conscience-troubles-you/
And rather than fighting against people who can’t reach your home, those protestors can strike back. I hope anyone in the military realises that he’s putting their own family at harms way. That may very well change the equation. I’m sure they are willing to risk their own lives, but are they also willing to risk the lives of the kids?
Well, more than a good reason, it’s in the UCMJ and drilled into you in basic.
This is actually insane. Bringing tanks to a knife fight… except it’s not even a knife fight it’s a thumb war. This is going to cause country wide rioting and Trump’s only recourse will be to further up the anti. I feel worried for you guys.
This is all predictable. By next summer, besides more immigration crimes, we’ll have food and product shortages, massive tariff-driven inflation, an economy roiling over his constant market manipulation, Luigi’s trial, arrests of prominent politicians and resistors, etc. There will be protests against all of these issues and more, and he will use those protests to stir up trouble and create violence.
By next summer it will get really ugly, and he’ll declare Martial Law, and suspend the Midterm election, so he can preserve his Congressional majorities.
Without Skum to rig the election, he will have no choice but to go with the Martial Law option.
more immigration crimes
You really mean, more trumped up, fabricated, magnified and fake news, immigration crimes.
next summer
You are more optimistic than I
It’s about legal timing, at which HitlerPig is a virtuoso, due to plenty of practice. If he declares Martial Law too early, he gives the courts time to rule against him when he suspends the election, which is the primary objective.
So he will use the next year and a few months to keep amping up the rhetoric, the atrocities, the violence, until it is out of control next summer. He’ll allow the primary race to go on, giving MAGA the opportunity to spread their propaganda, and finally cancel the election only a few weeks before.
Until then, it’s all about escalation.
Ante*
Thabks
They are all a bunch of Racists. The existence of brown people is simply too much for them
Well that’d a terrble idea that will result in many deaths just like all the other times
“The Trump Administration has a zero tolerance policy for criminal behavior …”
Dude that’s your entire administration. Have some self-awareness, you orange, sagging, coffin dodging oxygen thief.
Have some self-awareness
The hypocrisy is a feature, not a bug. Don’t waste your time.
Who, Trump the thirty-two times felon?
Never met the guy. We’re talking the 34 felony convicted man.
Oh, right, 34 felonies. So far.
34 convicted felonies so far
Don’t forget rapist. Probably liked them young, like his buddy Epstein.
allegedly he asked epstein for a 13 year old that looked like his daughter.
And heres a lives of the rich and famous type show where ivanka shows us her childhood bedroom. Watch her face after she shows her bed, right near the end. She looks like she’s about to fall apart.
Based on his comments and Katie Johnson’s testimony, I don’t believe he ever had sex with Ivanka, though he very obviously wanted to. I can imagine based on her reaction in that video that he assaulted her in some way, though, like groping.
“Aides said [Donald Trump] talked about Ivanka Trump’s breasts, her backside, and what it might be like to have sex with her, remarks that once led John Kelly to remind the president that Ivanka was his daughter,” Taylor wrote, recalling an alleged exchange with Kelly, who served as Trump’s chief of staff between 2017 and 2019.
“Afterward, Kelly retold that story to me in visible disgust. Trump, he said, was ‘a very, very evil man.’” source
Trump assaulted Jill Harth repeatedly in the early 1990s. On one occasion he pulled her into Ivanka’s empty room in Mar-a-Lago to try to have sex with her on Ivanka’s bed. source
Ugh. He’s such a monster.
It’s not just the red administration, all the government is rigged and most politicians are criminals.
Whatever side of this issue you fall on, you should at least know that, tactics-wise, joining with the LAPD to do raids in Eastside LA is not going to work how you think it will. There’s movies, albums, books, historic moments in living memory, etc. that warn about that. Start in Sacramento or wherever. Don’t expect East LA to care about your “authority.”
The powerful and their goons seem to have forgotten that sure they can roll up anywhere with an army and overpower protesters, but that’s not going to solve this. It’s just going to start a true resistance.
There have been few times in history where resistance forces have fought state forces on an open battlefield.
As seen historically, a typical resistance force will harrass the enemy. Bomb their buildings, stockpiles, and infrastructure. Wait until the state goons are alone, at their homes, at the bar, in a grocery store and then that’s when they kill them.
All sending the national gaurd in to kill protesters will result in is a true resitance forming.
The powerful have forgotten what it was like to be afraid to leave their fortresses
I hope I’m not giving too much credit for a strategy, npbut it might just be an attempt to provoke a reaction. Either California backs down or they resist and there’s an excuse to take over. Look for a bunch of masked thugs to try to arrest Newsom for “treason”
One word - drones.
Only useful if you know when and where someone will be. Obviously heightens surveillance capabilities, but they can’t be everywhere at once
You should look at the fields in Ukraine strewn with the fiber optic cables of 100’s of kamikaze drones.
I’m pretty sure they were throwing drones in on the side of the people, not the government.
Plus regular people can get hold of drones too.
Agreed. If protestor blood is spilled, it will foment a resistance that will build.
I hope a true resistance is born of this. We need to band together and rise up!
I don’t know history well…do tell or link some reads?
This has been going on so long that there’s an 80’s Cheech and Chong parody song about it.
The 1992 riots started in South Central, which is historically African American. East L.A. is sort of the hub of Hispanic “immigrants.” (immigrants in quotes there because America swiped that land after the Mexican-American war; lots of Hispanic Americans didn’t cross the border but had the border cross them).
I don’t live there. I’m just an enthusiastic idiot. I love Los Angeles. So, I can’t do its history justice. Hopefully, someone else can. I have friends there and I go there a fair bit but it’s not my hometown so I don’t want to misrepresent L.A. (I live in New Orleans so L.A. and LA—the postal code for Louisiana—get mixed up a lot. So, I use L.A. for the city. No one else does.)
It’s just Cheech on the song …the two had split up by that point and Tommy Chong refused to have any part of it.
My apologies. I wasn’t following their career closely when I was 7.
The Irish resistance is the closest analogue to what that kind of armed resistance would look like.
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