• Forbo@lemmy.ml
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    9 days ago

    If this is illegal, does that mean Cards Against Humanity’s recent voting stunt is also? Edit: thanks for the drive-by down vote, it really doesn’t help the discourse. I’m mainly wondering if CAH has opened themselves up to a bunch of legal liability.

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    10 days ago

    Blatantly illegal.

    But Biden won’t step up and make Garland do his job.

    Just throw it on top of the giant piles of reason “not trump” isn’t enough to fight fascism.

    We need people actually willing and able to fight, best case scenario for Biden is he’s only one of those things.

    And as president, he’s clearly able to direct the DOJ, if he believes he shouldn’t be able, that makes him unwilling to fight fascism.

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      10 days ago

      musk is all in. He either goes to prison or trump wins.

      I’m sure investigation starts immediately, but it won’t get results until after the election.

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        10 days ago

        What investigation is needed?

        There’s no way this is legal, it’s what “blatantly illegal” means.

        Like, if someone stripped naked, got a full automatic gun and walked around the White House busting off caps, it’s “blatantly illegal” no investigation needs to be done.

        This isn’t like Musk went home and put pants on, he’s still running around literally everyday till the election doing this.

        You stop the person from committing the crime, and lock them up if there’s reasonable suspicion they’ll keep committing crimes.

        Then when you’ve stopped more crimes from happening, you investigate the crimes that already blatantly happened, as well as looking for others.

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          10 days ago

          Are you suggesting to lock musk up for up to a year without a jury convicting him? For an illegal lottery.

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              10 days ago

              Honestly, it sounds so bad it would proof the trump campaign right.

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                Right about what, exactly? You do know this is a random person talking out of their ass on the internet about how they want the justice system to work, not reality.

                Have no fear, there would be an investigation and a jury and conviction before Musk is behind bars (LOL JUST KIDDING, Musk is rich and will never face consequences)

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                  10 days ago

                  Right about the radical left wanting to imprison political opponents. Without due process

                  Over an illegal lottery that could be argued to be a sweep

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            10 days ago

            That rich people be held to the law!!!

            Reginald! Get the fainting couch, I need to go get my pearls so I may clutch them

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              10 days ago

              No, just a fair trial for everyone.

              I hate musk more than most and want to see him pay for his crimes, but arresting him for an illegal lottery, that’s possibly a sweep stake, is out of the realm of what I believe in. What the user suggested sounds very fascist to me.

              I’m glad you guys aren’t in charge

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      10 days ago

      Except he’s not paying people to vote. I hate arguing for the guy, but what he’s doing is not illegal. It should be, but it’s not.

      Cards against humanity is paying democrats in swing states who didn’t vote last time to apologize, share something bad about trump, and make a voting plan. They’re showing how far you can go and still be legal, saying it should be illegal.

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    The best part about this is that unlike a lot of the other illegal shit his PACs are doing, Musk can’t separate himself from it and say he wasn’t personally involved. He personally handed out the giant check.

    If Harris wins, and if her administration actually decides to crack down on this shit, Musk could end up behind bars. I’m not holding my breath, but it’s a still a pleasant thought.

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      The first rally he came out for trump, he flat out said “if trump loses I’m fucked”.

      It’s logical to assume if he’s being this blatant because even a little digging would show obvious crimes.

      He’s already fucked, he has no other option than to double down with blantant shit.

      All the more reason to act now, the election is in two weeks, but if looking into this gets a head start to find some shady shit before January…

      Well, it’s probably all hypothetical, Biden wouldn’t have the balls to do anything.

      • It’s logical to assume if he’s being this blatant because even a little digging would show obvious crimes.

        Are you saying that he’ll be expected to go to jail if Harris wins? I think you just made my day.

        Well, it’s probably all hypothetical, Biden wouldn’t have the balls to do anything.

        Biden was never a tough-as-nails prosecutor. But this is how Harris made her name, so there’s every reason to expect she’s do things differently after Jan 20.

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      9 days ago

      Apparently nothing. I live in PA and want to sign up, but I really don’t want Musk to have my email or phone number or home address.

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Understandable. I’d greatly consider it (if I didn’t already turn in my mail-in ballot, and he offered to California) but the idea alone that I’d be giving my private info to “I am a massive fascist and enabler and funder of them” just so I can grift a grifter.

        But the simple fact that even if I could give them what they demanded for payment, they would probably see a disabled, queer, poor person and go “Oh, well, you’re one of them so… Face the wall.”

        I’d rather be a poverty-trapped queer in a red county as I am now, than sell my morals for money. That’s what people with the moral backbone of a chocolate eclair do.

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    10 days ago

    Everyone talking about how illegal this is but I doubt it is. It does not say you have a vote a certain way. You just have to be a voter and sign his petition to be eligible.

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      Legal eagle has a video spelling out which laws are broken. Note that there are specific laws against paying people to vote