And no one is going to do a damn thing about this because the US is not a nation of laws anymore.

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    Now, watch as literally nothing at all is done about it, just like his last blatant and obvious felony and just like his next one.

    We suck.

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      No thanks on the nationalist “we”. Cultspeak.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

      Frank first uses a singular personal pronoun (“I”), but then quickly corrects to the plural personal pronoun “we.” Why? Because when you’re leading a cult, you need to imply family, collectiveness, exclusivity at each moment. Frank’s consistently creates an “us versus them” scenario. Although it’s unclear who “they” are, that hardly matters to his followers. They are much too busy “looking harder” (at what?) “digging deeper” (to where?) and “mining that pure, unbridled potential (of what?)” - https://www.whatmakesgreatwriting.com/p/dont-worry-darling

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        We are a collective society, that’s an objective fact, dipshit, you don’t have the option to not be a part of a demographic, learn what context is and how to apply it.

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        I don’t see how that’s relevant, and if anything that is a very rude question of you to ask. I’d suggest you gather your couth and think before asking such inane and, frankly, very stupid and insulting questions, which my username has already answered had you bothered to read it, in the future.

        Good day.

        Edit: I apologize, I read that backwards. No, of course not, I’m just a regular human in my normal human skin keeping my sweet tasty meats contained inside my body, and I have regular non-serrated teeth that don’t grow back when I lose them attacking seals and such, just like the rest of you. Nothing to see here.

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          No it’s fine, the Internet doesn’t convey tone so you didn’t reslise I am merely a fascinated biologist. Thank you for explaining about your non serrated teeth that definitely don’t grow back Mr Man. Have a human day!

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        He has immunity for “Official” presidential acts. Establishing/ promoting a private business concern is NOT an official presidential act.

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          The problem is that SCOTUS said two things:

          1. “Official” acts are basically whatever Trump says they are unless the Supreme Court says otherwise.

          2. Official acts can’t be investigated or used as evidence of criminal activity for unofficial acts. In other words, if Trump says it’s tied to an official act, it’s covered as well.

          In other words, Trump can do whatever the fuck he wants. All he’s got to say is that the whole thing was tied to his implementation of economic policy or something and it’s suddenly an “official act” that can’t even be investigated unless the Supreme Court says it can.

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        And you’re just going to comply with that?

        I for one would still want to call out whats being done, to make a record for future generations if nothing else.

        Are you really such a good little soldier that the supreme court makes a bad decision and you immediately reorient your entire moral framework to match?

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          What do you mean by am I just going to comply? What does that even mean? What am I supposed to do? Trump is the one not complying along with the Supreme Court and Congress. None of these groups are doing their job. This has happened over and over and over again and still half the country is either cheering it on or clearly ok with it. The other half either don’t care or have been neutered. America democratically voted for this. Don’t blame me for not being emotional enough in a comment.

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          Lemmy loves the defeatist, resigned, comply in advance mentality. It pretty uniformly gets voted to the top.

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            And exactly what is your grand plan, oh wise one?

            Trump has been ignoring court orders left and right. Mass firings are still happening. Fired workers haven’t been rehired. Kilmar Garcia is still stuck in El Salvador. Immigrants are still being sent to third world countries with no notice or due process. Trump is issuing unconstitutional executive orders on the daily, and the Supreme Court themselves may very well rule that all of this is OK.

            Hell, Trump’s lawyers just argued in front of the Supreme Court that they will not abide by the Supreme Court’s decision if they don’t like it. SCOTUS judges didn’t even reply with any kind of threat of consequences for ignoring a SCOTUS decision. They just accepted that Trump may or may not ignore the court and moved on with questioning. Why? Because they know they have no enforcement mechanism. Neither do any of the other courts. Why do you think they’ve done exactly nothing but issue empty threats of some arbitrary and undefined “contempt” charges for DOJ lackeys if they lie to the court 20 or 30 more times? Because that’s all they’ve got. Anything beyond that and they’ll be exposed for having no enforcement mechanism when Trump tells them to go pound sand. The court’s threats have already been exposed as being about as effective as mommy telling a beligerent toddler that she’s going to count to three, but keeps stopping at two and a half, two and three quarters…

            And we all know how it works out. No punishment ever comes. Mommy eventually buys the screaming child the toy just to shut him up, and then wonders why he pulls another temper tantrum in the next store they visit. Same thing applies here.

            But hey, if you’ve got a viable plan besides taking an extra hit of copium and hoping for the best, I’d love to hear it.

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              A person raising their voice is doing more than a person who chooses to stay silent. Why would you direct your anger at the former rather than the latter?

              This idea that anyone “not doing enough” needs to shut up and sit down is exactly the kind of toxic bullshit that fascists want you to consume. They want you to feel that everything has to either be some huge world changing gesture, or it’s just not worth it. Life isn’t like that. Real resistance isn’t about blowing up the Death Star, it’s about thousands, millions of tiny acts of defiance that build upon each other. Every time someone says “this is wrong” someone else is inspired to agree. Every time someone shows up to a protest, someone else is inspired to show up the next time. You don’t change regimes in a day, and you don’t build movements out of nothing. They accumulate, millions of tiny choices gathering together into a vast whole.

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        At this point it’s basically just propaganda to give the illusion that something is being done.

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        They said he has immunity for official duties. This article is about him using the presidential seal for non-official duties. I don’t think anything is going to happen still, but even the insane SC ruling doesn’t give him immunity for this.

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          He’ll just say something like he was using it to build relationships with the leaders of other countries or some ridiculous bullshit. Unfortunately “official” while obvious to us may be more ambiguous to the law.

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          The ruling outlined that official duties includes pretty much everything he does while president, unless he explicitly states it’s not in his capacity as president or for national interests, which he won’t do in court, so effectively, yes, he has complete immunity. The “official” part is just a fig leaf to give the ruling the appearance of jurisprudence.

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            Sure, but this is about him using the seal in a non-official capacity. Either it’s legal because it’s an official duty, in which case he doesn’t need immunity, or it’s illegal because it isn’t an official duty, in which case he isn’t immune.

            Again, nothings going to happen with this regardless. I’m just stating what’s going on.

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              Sure, but this is about him using the seal in a non-official capacity.

              Why cant he say that he was speaking officially as the president of the US? He was discussing economics. He wasn’t talking about his meme coin.

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                As I said, he can, in which case it’s legal. Normally a president would have to argue that, but we’re well past that point.

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      yeeh, my first though was “ooh, that’s gonna command a few marches…” fuck

      edit - i should be productive and not just cynical. who’s arranging the president’s birthday concert? do we have springstein? vedder? come on y’all

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      Well there will be court cases that will drag on for months which he will whine persistently. So not exactly nothing, just more whining.

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    The president has immunity while being in office, was the supreme court ruling right?

    And if this doesn’t count under the immunity, he just replaces judges and claims he lost faith in the justice system and abolishes and restructures it, just as Hitler did. He already ignored several other judge rulings.

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        You think there will be one? Seeing how things are going now, there’s barely a democracy left. I’m expecting elections like Russia had, at best. Trump is following the footsteps of Hitler. Literally. Tariffs, attacking journalists and judges, spreading hate towards minorities, using fake news as a weapon, replacing key positions with yes-men, deporting people to concentration camps, etc. You might hope for a Democrat as president, but I think that ship has sailed man.

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          People still tell me “at least it’s only four years” and I can’t believe their ignorance

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      Start attacking his supporters instead. Bring them up on charges for being complicit in his crimes. He may have immunity, but his enablers don’t. Make everyone scared to keep supporting him until their only choice is to vote in favor of ousting him.

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        Or, Trump will just protect them all. Like he pardoned the Jan6 rioters. He already barred judges who went after friends of his.

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          So let him. Keep doing it over and over until the message gets through. You just sound defeatist.

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    Lmao… let’s start counting the laws he hasn’t broken. I’m so done with trying to care about each instance of him breaking the law. He’s unfit for office, has been impeached twice, and he deserves only jail for as long as his miserable heart will last.

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    I do appreciate the media at least saying it. It needs to be widely said and acknowledged. Too often the media just ignores it and instead covers Joe Biden age.

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      nobody dies with dignity. golden toilet child’s days are numbered, and even he can’t stop it. it’s creeping, and it’ll hit him in about 20 years if the world stays as fair as it’s been. buckle up.

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      and most of 'em don’t have a fucking thing to do with ‘official’ duties

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        That ruling defined official duties so broadly it’s actually virtually impossible for anything he does to not be “official” by the SC’s standards.