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      • A lot of Americans think when he talks about doing bad things, it’s all talks,
      • when he talks about making the economy better, it’s all in good faith,
      • all the “necessary evil” can be undone in the next election cycle,
      • and business controls the narrative, that would highly benefit under trump.

      Yeah, and boring and ineffective liberals that trying to take the moral high ground every time the right takes yet another low.

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        Funny how those talking points mirror the ones Russian troll factories would try to push inside their respective bubbles.

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        Honestly I’m not sure American businesses are very smart.

        I imagine corpos do want trump, but it seems as short sighted as going after quarterly profits ahead of all else.

        Ok, so you own a corporation and want those pesky “water break” regulations that are really cutting into your profits to go away. So you back trump. He tweets out “WORKERS DRINKING WATER ON THE CLOCK, SAD AND BIGLY BAD” and they decide that’s an official act and you can squeeze an extra 15 minutes out of your workers.

        Meanwhile, he puts a 20% tariff on all your inputs.

        I don’t support, but could at least understand, companies wanting this guy out of some rank greed. But he’s articulated positions that would be awful for most businesses. Every serious economist has looked at his tariff plan and gone “oh yea, that would destroy the economy”

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          Corporations are chasing after short-term profits, not long-term ones. The only job I used to have was literally bankrupted by my then boss to avoid paying taxes on his other business ventures.

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    It’ll be extremely bitter sweet, one day seeing a AmeriNazi and asking em WTF they were thinking electing a guy that literally says the economy will be worse, to boost the economy.

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    And this fucker is about to win… I can’t believe this… And my state denied women abortion rights.

    I hope every woman that voted for this isnt raped and forced to carry that baby.

    And Rick Scott, the leader of the largest Medicare fraud, is re elected again.

    My state is filled with idiots who won’t even vote for their own best interests

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      57 percent voted for reproductive choice. But the measure required 60% supermajority.

      And to make things worse - abortion being its own separate item on the ballot may have been what cost us Florida, since pro-choice voters who leaned right could vote both ways.

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      Have to agree, FL is looking more and more like a lost cause. The upside is after drill baby drill does into effect, it will speed up the timeline of the Florida Isles becoming a thing. Might want to invest in boat stocks, its gonna be waterworld down there, sans Kevin Costner.

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      Florida confuses the shit out of me. How did it become this way? And so quickly! With the major metros I don’t understand how it’s so red! Even Texas races are getting closer and closer, and I think it’s because of the major cities.

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        Florida in the last 20-30 years has been a representative sample of retiree vote in the country. The boomers and Gen X that retiring now to Florida are just not progressively minded. The people that moved to Florida during the pandemic were also very hostile to blue state politics which is why they moved to Florida, which was perceived as a red state during that time period. Now we’re just living in that reality after all the dust has settled.

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          During the last few years and specifically during 2020 covid the majority of people moving out of my blue state went to Florida, North Carolina, Tennessee, or Texas. Everyone that I knew of that leaned that way basically moved to a swing state.

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      Just over half of those who voted said yes, there’s still a lot of us who voted against this and watched in horror as the remainder proceeded to fuck us over. From those of us who voted against this: we tried our best and hate this as much as the rest of the sane world. Good luck trying to salvage things out there, it’s going to be increasingly difficult for us to act openly against this soon. If you can, put the thumbscrews to us in whatever way you can. We’ll suffer, but then again we’re already going to be.

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      They said yes because most are only looking at a rose colored picture of Trump. A lot of effort has gone into identifying the different ideological bubbles and catering an image of Trump specifically tailored for them, in the way only money can. We will likely never know to what extent given how fast transparency has been disappearing.

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    He said he will be a dictator for one day. Also mused in detail about how great it would be to have one really tough day or night where the gloves came off. Sounded like a strong vigilante rallying call, to every raging nutjob who really wants to go out and kick some gay ass, or whatever.

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      I mean Hitler made a similar speech announcing the night of the long knives.

      If anyone reproaches me and asks why I did not resort to the regular courts of justice, then all I can say is this. In this hour I was responsible for the fate of the German people, and thereby I became the supreme judge of the German people. I gave the order to shoot the ringleaders in this treason, and I further gave the order to cauterise down to the raw flesh the ulcers of this poisoning of the wells in our domestic life. Let the nation know that its existence – which depends on its internal order and security – cannot be threatened with impunity by anyone! And let it be known for all time to come that if anyone raises his hand to strike the State, then certain death is his lot.

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      Well they will have to go through my guns first. I’m not going down without a fight.

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        Less Trump voters showed up compared to last time. So if anything, the ~14 million Dem voters that showed up for Biden yet decided to not show up for Harris are more at fault.

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      Seriously, here in Australia, a win is a legitimate reason to take yanks in as political refugees (especially women)

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          Come :) the ‘venomous animals will kill you in Australia’ thing is bullshit away, I rarely see snakes or spiders, and if I do I leave them alone and they leave me alone.

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        Visited Sydney and Trinity Beach in June with my family, and it was one of the best trips I’ve ever had. I wish we could have seen more, let alone move there! So clean, people cared about the environment, lovely people everywhere.

        ❤️ Australia!

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          people cared about the environment

          It might be true for people, but I heard that’s not true about their politics in general.

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      NYT forecast is 90% Trump now. It’s crazy that anyone would vote for him, really shows that policy plays no part in politics. It’ll be interesting to see how he tears down the judicial system to remove the many charges against him.

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        Yup. American democracy is going to be dead after this election.

        I wonder how much of that project 2025 will be implemented.

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          How alive is it when the ‘democratic’ candidate was anointed instead of voted for through a democratic process? I’m not a Trump fan at all but at least he was chosen by the people.

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            Deligates DID elect her, and they did so because the party members they represent wanted her to take over, there was 5+ internal polls sent to registered democrats, this didn’t SUDDENLY happen, it was weeks of polling and campaigning. A party doesn’t need to have a public primary to select a candidate.

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              That’s not what I saw and not what most people saw. It was fast and under wraps. Keep living in your world where you are a victim, it will only lead to more loss.

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        What was Harris’ big policy goal? What is she the champion of? Tax rebates? Policy does move people but Harris offered no vision.

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            It’s the fear and blame, they now know white people can go back to having all the privilege, and brown people can be rounded up and infinity detained or exiled, imprisoned, enslaved, over policed, under served. Because they know any black having a job, means they got the job by being black and they stole it from a actually qualified white.

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              What about this statement means the people thinking this way aren’t adult children? It seems you are just pointing out cognitively/emotionally immature ways of thinking here.

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            That alone can’t be it, I’m a man-child and I’d never vote for him if I had a say in this election.

            It’s the fact that he promises easy solutions to everything. What are the solutions? Well that doesn’t matter, he promised he’ll deal with all the problems, that’s enough.

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              It means they aren’t serious people. The Trump administration wrecked up the country with their shitty dangerous response to covid and their conservative base spent the entire time complaining and attacking healthcare workers.

              Serious people propose ways to address problems and work based off of facts. Conservatives are off on witch hunts and high on identity politics.

              This election was a referendum on the neo-liberal order and it lost. Trump represents populist nationalism, if the transactional nature of his first term is any indicator he’s gonna sell off as much as he can to the highest bidders.

              TLDR: A bunch of angry working class folks just handed the country to the billionaire oligarchs, possibly under some delusion the wealthy won’t keep robbing them blind.

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        Fuck off. The majority of black Americans live in the south, and more than half of the northern states voted for trump too.

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    Trump is going to increase MUH LEGAL immigration by a lot. Wages are going to go down as result and unions will be gutted. Will police still support Trump when they end up making 18 USD/HR? That’s what he means by hardships.

    Corporations are going to see a huge increase in profits because they’re going to cut labor cost by importing cheap labor.

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      I think you misunderstand the method of imposing the hardship. The police will be better paid and there to impose the planned hardship on the ordinary people, including many of the people who always vote for him.

      It’s honestly rather strange and depressing watching the US from the outside. I have rarely seen the most downtrodden segment of the population being so gung ho about the worst parts of the system that’s been oppressing them their whole lives. It’s amazing to me to see so many super patriotic black people for example. How? For what? Why would you blindly defend the same structures that’ve been oppressing you for centuries? It’d be less depressing and more funny if it wasn’t for the massive destructive power these people get access to when they win, power that they subsequently unleash on the rest of the world.

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        Why would you blindly defend the same structures that’ve been oppressing you

        college, housing benefits… healthcare.

        funny, the exact same things conservatives have made impossible to obtain…

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      Police are going to support trump because hes all “back the blue”, because soon they will all be his henchmen.

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    Of course his idiot dumbshit supporters all assume they won’t be the ones suffering, it’ll just be everyone else, and that makes it okay to them.

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    Trump will do a great job. The SCOTUS gave him full immunity, so what can go wrong?

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        I’m so divided on this. I would love to see him do anything to mitigate the damage. But I fear that almost anything could tip us into a rural versus urban civil war. I beg all leftists to procure a gun(s), learn gun safety, and learn how to shoot.

        Preferably in the next month because I wouldn’t be surprised if sales are restricted.

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          All I’m going to say on that, is this:

          What guns you do have…. Lock them up securely. (Ideally, behind 3 locks- the room, a gun safe, and an individual cable or trigger lock.)

          We don’t need more headlines like “five yo shoots family”.

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              It isn’t just about kids. For one thing firearms are expensive and valuable, and increases your risks of being broken into. (Most thieves, though, will only target easy victims.)

              The other thing is each lock is one more conscious choice with firearms. It’s not much, but it does provide a decision-point where you can choose something else when you find yourself in a mental health crisis.

              And for home defense…. It’s almost certain if it changes outcomes… it’ll be hurting you, if it’s stored open. (Now if you carry in your home, that’s different, but also… well we won’t get into that.)

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                It’s a good point and we do have trigger locks. I don’t want to ever have to hurt someone but especially after yesterday I’m not taking any chances.

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        It would take more than a couple. Trump is terrible on his own, but he isn’t the sole problem, he’s largely just a symptom of the bigger problem.