Norwegian fuel company Haltbakk Bunkers has announced it will cease supplying fuel to U.S. military forces in Norway and American ships docking in Norwegian ports, citing dissatisfaction with recent U.S. policy towards Ukraine.
I’m sure he’s planning on getting it back from Mother Russia.
Other countries, if you’re out there - follow suit. This flappy gum flexing shit we’re doing has got to stop. It’s gonna hurt, I’m sure. But until we’re neck deep into the “find out” phase, nothing is going to happen.
They’re going to use this as an excuse to buy Russian oil just watch
In that case, the rest of the sane 1st World should sanction the shit out of the USA until Orange Krasnov and his crew of Russian assets are out of office.
Plenty of Europe, if not all, it’s still buying Russian gas, even Spain which has Algerian gas still buys from Russia (a few billions of €), enough for Russia to say Spain is one of the most reliable partners they have.
It’s all a sham, a charade, a fucking joke.
Master Negotiator. He’ll get on the phone with these guys and tell them tariffs are coming.
True! Then the company that no longer sells fuel to USA will make less profit when selling fuel to USA! What a punishment!
Feels almost unbelievable to hear that there still are people and companies standing up for their values and principles even in the face of losing profits or comfort. I thought that true western values had finally died and we were collapsing but this give a tiny sliver of hope at least.
norway doesn’t really count. they have too much independent wealth to need to play by rules set through bullying and abuse. and a natural solidarity because they don’t need to concern themselves with economical risks or worries.
in other words Norway has “fuck you money”
Kinda nice to see it used for once. Is that how it feels to like a billionaire?
and an uncomfortably short distance from Russia
So what does this teach us? Independent wealth is the end-goal!
So does Switzerland…
Murican here. More of this please. We’ve swan-dived into some record setting ‘fuck around’, and desperately need a ‘find out’ that hurts enough to teach a lasting lesson.
You all need to swan dive the fuck out of it if you want this to stop.
The world cannot save you from yourselves. We will isolate you, abandon you, treat you as the untrustworthy former friend that you are. But none of that will matter if you don’t fix your shit.
It’s not an “or” situation. Both need to be happening.
Right. But for the sake of everyone else, our government needs to be treated like the hostile nation it is.
So that all that’s left in America is dipshits and bountiful breeders. That’s a recipe for Idiocracy.
I really agree with this , as a fellow American.
Good. As an American, I encourage all countries to do things like this.
Wonderful, it’s time people got the memo, America are not the good guys.
I’m saying this as an American. I would love to see a world where America’s Government was viewed with suspicion when acting in international affairs instead of Europe looking up to them like the adult in the room. Europe, YOU, are the adult in the room.
Europe looking up to them like the adult in the room.
We never did that though.
The dynamic was more like the US is the big rich kid with all the toys who sometimes bullies the other kids so it’s better to have him on side.
Now you’ve elected a couple of literal spoiled rich bullies it makes it all a lot more obvious.
As an European, I do not want this division. The world is safer having USA, Canada, and Europe as allies.
Then don’t do what we did, vote for progressives not Conservatives. Conservatives are a plague on society.
Coming from an American who moved to Germany, Merz will pave the road to Germany’s Trump.
Incorrect. former Chancellor Merkel came from the same CDU Party as future Chancellor Merz. Merkel made 3 big mistakes, not controlling immigration, which gave the neo-Nazis more political power, entering the Afghanistan War and placing to much trust in Vlad Putin. However, she was skeptical of Orange Krasnov. Merz knows he cannot rely on the AmeriKans and they are in bed with Moscow giving each other golden showers. I usually vote for the SPD and sometimes CDU.
Idk what you’re saying is incorrect here. Conservatives are by and large Anti-Labor which means they are anti-80-90% of the population. Merkel began decommissioning nuclear plants and put more money towards oil, now we have an energy “crisis” that could have been entirely avoided. But conservatives are pro-oil when everyone in the world would benefit from being pro-green energy including nuclear power.
Conservatives are by and large pro privatizing public functions. The German train network has the issues it has today partially because it’s not publicly owned and operated. Conservatives are anti-infrastructural spending and they tend to be budget conscious only when it benefits the Uber wealthy.
Merz wants to complain about the fiscal budget but then wants to cut taxes for corporations. The CDU wants to fund that, last I checked, by cutting spending on welfare and social security nets. Conservatives want to take money from the sick, poor, and elderly and give it to big businesses and the only argument they have for why that could be a good thing is it could make the “economy better” and some of that money will trickle down.
We are in the mess we are today because of conservative policies. Voting for the CDU is voting for the declination of society based on all the data I’ve seen. I’d love to see what an SPD government looks like when it’s not being sabotaged by the FDP but I worry, like in America, they’re still too centralist to be massively effective at reversing decline.
Immigrants aren’t the problem. Germany needs more immigrants to stay functional in the coming decades, just like most developed countries.
+1 for you. However, how do you control the immigration so the AfD does not smell the blood? Same with the fucked up MAGA in AmeriKa. The German rail network should be Deutsche Bundesbahn, the federal government ran it better than the privatized DB AG BS.
I don’t know if controlling immigration is the problem or solution, right? It’s a scapegoat.
I think the problem is perception. What should happen is when any media org talks about violent immigrants or violent crime they should be forced to display a graph of violent crime for the past 5 decades or something. Germany is in one of the top 3 or 5 safest years it has had in the last like 50 years.
I’ve had German citizens warn me about the ghettos of Mannheim. These are stores without bars over their windows, plenty of people walking around at most hours of night, music and walk-in restaurants. This is no ghetto like in America. But natives see it as scary because humans are creatures of relativity.
If anything Germany needs to provide a simple, clear path forward to permanent residence (at least) and ideally full citizenship. This tells people who are open to joining Germany that they have a path to starting a life here. Germany also need to provide a security net for those people if they run into problems on their journey to permanent residence (at least) so they know that this massive risk of moving abroad has a minimum amount of safety (cause a work force that feels trapped at their job is not a well compensated work force and everyone wants good paying jobs for themselves and their neighbors). I think Germany does a great job at both of these things already, the scary part is AFD wanting to differentiate between blood-line citizens and naturalized citizens. The scary part is CDU conservatives wanting to reduce the social safety net. The CDU winning hurts the influx of highly skilled or specialized immigrants because now they know the move just got more risky if conservatives get their way.
As far as protecting their border or slowing the rate of immigrants in total or from certain areas… Idk honestly. I don’t know if that’s a real problem, I don’t think it is, and I don’t know how Germany could fix that. I have no doubt very smart people have several great solutions that are human-centric policies that improve the lives of everyone on both side of the fictional line - but I’m positive it’s not the policy conservatives will be pursuing. Because again, I don’t think it’s a real problem.
Real problems are housing for everyone, higher wages for everyone, infrastructural improvement, improving education, better medicine and access to healthcare, etc etc. Germany and most developed countries are wealthy enough to handle their current level of immigration without issue - if the money is spent well instead of funneled into the parasitic 1%'ers pockets. Cultures and integration happen naturally over time, that isn’t a fear for me either.
MAGA won because the economic decline outpaces the societal progress for too many decades, and the perceived solution was not based in reality. Germany has far more run way in the economic and societal race, but the influence on perception is both at a high in terms of strength and a low in terms of being attached to reality.
Safer for whom?
The world safer? THE WORLD??? Jesus Christ dude, millions of people being killed so you drive your v18 Mustang with 1mpg for cheaper. Honestly coming from Europe, American collapse is much needed and a solid humbling of Europe. Europe was never the adult and America the sole bully. The only real adults in the room left are China, Brazil and India.
China, Brazil, and India aren’t adults, they’re the loud idiots in the back of the class who make America seem competent solely by comparison. Seriously Tankies remind me so much of Maga in the way that they worship China like a God, and then when I actually look into what China’s doing it’s blatant human rights violations and top level stupidity.
Offf… This was on point until the last sentence. None of these states are “adults”. They’re all spoiled children enforcing their privilege by violent control.
America has always been tolerated for political reasons. But noone in Europe has ever really looked up to the USA. You were useful to keep good relations with, (good in a fight). But you’ve always been regarded as loud, uncultured, and disturbingly patriotic. And honestly, if you look back at Europe’s history, we’re not exactly afraid of a fight.
Stay the fuck out of Greenland and Canada, and come talk to us when you elect a grownup.
I tried, but honestly until we get rid of Gerrymandering, Republicans will have a foothold no matter how blatantly unpopular and universally reviled they are
The problem is they aren’t universally reviled. Trump still got 77M votes (almost half the popular vote). And that was in the full knowledge of how badly he fucked up the first time. But even if people didn’t pay attention to the pandemic, and the Muslim ban, and the separation of children from their families, and the protests, and the insurrection, the man still behaves like a toddler with frontotemporal dementia (including sundowning on stage). Yeah gerrymandering is a definite problem, but the commercialisation of politics and the relentless rightwing propaganda is a much bigger one.
Yeah, but the thing is, Trump didn’t gain any voters, Kamala merely failed to re-obtain votes Biden had one.
And since Voter Intimidation was in full swing and Elon is, according to Trump “Good with computers, so you don’t REALLY need to vote”, there’s too much shenanigans
Europe is the adult in the sense that it’s the genocidal empire that birthed USA.
Good.
Fuck us
Apparently we need the leopards to eat a lot more MAGA faces, fine by me. Better they should have full tummies before they hurt any more trans people.
montana didn’t hear you. https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/the-crime-is-being-trans-montana
Imagine believing in leopards eating faces. That’s one thing.
Now imagine believing that leopards can distinguish people by their preferred branding of the state.
This mind game has been liberal “resistance”.
Imagine thinking metaphors are real
Fuck it. Start somewhere.
As an American, I hope this continues.
Exactly as Putin wanted.
A united Europe and an isolated America? Perhaps the latter part sure, but people who think what went down at the oval office is what Putin wanted I think are imagining too much. That was off-script, that messes up everyones plans, especially if Trump and/or Vance are indeed Russian assets. Russia very much intended on a terrible deal with Ukraine to be signed with Europe cheerily in step, now there is no deal so the fighting continues and Europe is united with Ukraine as though the war just started. And while I think China will do the smart thing and remain neutral, they could steal the spot of the number one global superpower if they united with Europe against Russia and USA (fat chance but just saying.)
Yeah, the ideal situation for Putin would be for Trump to betray Ukraine in such a way that still pays lip-service to their assumed role as defenders of democracy so that, while Europe might be pissed off, they don’t have quite the impetus they need to overcome the inertia the USA has built up over decades of trade and military alliances and openly oppose them.
Trump has always been Putin’s useful idiot, but we’re seeing the “idiot” part overtake the “useful” part here.
Non EU countries would probably aim to make BRICS stronger
I’m not certain Putin saw that coming. He may make use of it though.
This specific event? No, of course not. An ostracized America? Yes.
America needs ostracizing. I say this as an American.
Fuck the US
Europeans know how to deal with collaborators
“From this day forward, our country will flourish and be respected again all over the world.” - Donald Trump, Inauguration Day Jan 20 2025.
So much respect.
Trump is a dictator, dictators think “respect” and “fear” are interchangeable.
Every cop and politician ever.
“Respect my power and I’ll respect your lack thereof.”
Did he really say that?
Well, it didn’t work on me.
This will continue (the whole of America suffering) until someone wrangles in Trump…
… or he gets us into a major war we can’t win.
Rich people have to start losing significant amounts of money before anything is done about Trump.
Yeah especially if he pisses off say military or oil contractors… ((Looks at the article this comment thread belongs to))
I’m hoping the Canadians invade into an area I live so I can join their side.
I still think Mexico is looking pretty cool lately with their badass President.
Yeah, I hope she stays in power long enough to make progress.
Canada should be able to pull the UK right into the fight, and maybe France too. We’d need nuclear powers in our side to ever end a fucking war.
I mean, I wouldn’t be surprised if in my lifetime we end up with a unified world government that excludes literally just US and Russia. Israel would be excluded too except who the hell knows what’ll happen to the middle east after yet another world war.
Think we can make it over the wall?
With an airplane, yes. That’s how most undocumented folks do it, after all. Lol
This will continue (the whole of America suffering) until someone wrangles in Trump…
When Republican Senators profits or jobs become at risk, because of what Trump’s doing, then you’ll see some wrangling done.
Genuine question: why is this comment licensed under creative commons?
He’s the equivalent of one of those Facebook people that thinks “if you put this at the end of your posts they can’t steal your comments”. It’s nonsense and doesn’t change anything. Just ignore it and keep scrolling.
I miss the old web, where if someone wanted to RP as a alien or a cat or something in all their forum posts, we just kind of rolled with it. The internet was strange and diverse.
So many people are dog piling this guy because, in essence, he isn’t conforming. He’s including a little forum signature on his lemmy posts in 2025.
Just ignore it and keep scrolling.
I agree, but not in a “this guy is an idiot” kind of way, but in a “do whatever you want and keep the internet diverse and strange” kind of way. Let the guy have his small protest. Folks need to stop dog piling him. It shows up in many of the threads he’s in, and judgments about his little signature dominate over anything he actually had to say.
In complete accord with this comment. We’ve stared into the abyss so long, we’ve become the abyss.
If I could get the Abyss to stop slapping me around on a bi-daily basis, I’d appreciate that. I’d really just like to talk about the posts.
We can’t control others. We can try to manage ourselves. When we see how difficult that actually is, sometimes, we realize what a fool’s errand controlling anyone else is.
I remember decades ago, this one guy on Slashdot would end all his comments with a period on a line by itself like he was using SMTP. It was dumb then and it’s dumb now.
Hm, interesting. So this guy was posting all weird on slashdot, and you remember decades later? And you carried that with you, and it inspired you to type this comment. That’s a lot of commitment on your part for a stray period.
That’s pretty funny. Thank you for sharing.
Does your hate for personality and individuality extend to any other harmless quirks you’d like us all to know about?
It shows up in many of the threads he’s in, and judgments about his little signature dominate over anything he actually had to say.
Yep, yep. Like right here for example. And this was going on 9-10 months ago too, its a bi-daily thing.
A single line of text that is a link to a Creative Commons license really shouldn’t be pissing off so many people.
I mean, do people also get pissed off when they scroll down the bottom of each and every Wikipedia page, and see the CC license there? Or read an news article that has a license footer at the end of the article?
To be tinfoil hatty about it for a moment, I really do believe at this point that I’m being attacked repeatidly (every 48ish hours) by a bot brigade used by someone(s) who really doesn’t want others to start doing what I’m doing, licensing their content, by harassing me off of Lemmy.
My licensing is not just to tell for-profit entities that they can’t use my content for free, its to tell non-profit open-source projects that they can use my content for free.
I agree, but not in a “this guy is an idiot” kind of way,
Yeouch. I thank you for the support, but damn that hurts too.
For the record, I truly believe that the Safe Harbor laws, and that Laws trump ToS, means that I truly own the content that is being posted here (and so do you and everybody else who posts/comments, for that matter). Even if its not being inforced today, the laws are on the books, and this will come to a head a some point.
I mean, look at whats going on right now with Mozilla/Firefox and their ToS changes. Corporations sure are not shy to use licensing of their content to the best of their abilities.
Why should only corporations avail themselves and be protected by the law? Why is everybody else so quick to surrender the little protections under the law that they have, and to ridicule others who try to use the law to their benefit?
Take a moment, and really think that one though. Its like there’s a Corporate version of Order 66 going on or something. 😜
By the way echolalia@lemmy.ml, while I started to reply to you directly, the above is really a response to everyone who would be intellectually honest in judging my actions and take a moment to think it though before replying to me.
I think that you should keep posting with your signature if it makes you happy. I have some sincere doubts it will force a corporation to exclude your content from any aggregated data, though, nor do I think anyone is giving up their rights by not properly licensing their comments here. Copyright is automatic in the USA. The problem isn’t the licensing, its the fact that no court is properly enforcing these rights. And, too few governments have data privacy laws on the books.
I’m not interested in relitigating those points though, I’m sure you’ve heard them. I guess I’m just typing that up so you know where I’m coming from.
I do think your signature is valuable when it makes people consider who owns their data, and why the CC license is important.
Personally I think you should put an explanation in your bio. I think your message will be served better if you can point to a pre-written explanation (or even an old style FAQ). But, I don’t think you’re obligated to do so. Its all gravy. People are going to fight you regardless.
Did you see that post from that guy mad about a period character on slashdot? Lmao
Personally I think you should put an explanation in your bio.
Actually I have the CC license info/link in my bio as well.
But, I don’t think you’re obligated to do so.
If people ask me with honest intent I would be responding in kind and explain it, gladly. But that is not been my experience here on Lemmy.
So I don’t know why I should put myself through that kind of trolling from others, again, again, and again, under the guise of trying to educate someone on what a CC license is, who most likely already knows, or by a bot starting a brigade cycle.
I know that’s a cynical view, and I hate stating what I just did, but I feel that I truly earned the right to that cynical opinion, as that’s what the vast majority of my experiences have been here on the Lemmy, both ten months ago, as well as currently.
The irony is that if someone just clicks on the link in my footer it’ll take them to a page of the license that also explains what the Creative Commons license is, so they really don’t need me to explain it, they could just click on the link I’ve already supplied.
I do appreciate your kind words and civil discussion, and suggestions, thank you for that, sincerely.
When you wear a tinfoil hat out in public, the people snickering aren’t trying to tap into your brainwaves. Well, I mean shit, maybe they are. Depends on the drip.
At least this weirdo isn’t a transphobic bigot like that dragon asshole.
That’s quite the axe you’ve got there, mr. ayyy. You been grinding it on any dragons lately? Just, bringing it up on random comments about internet behavior?
Yes, I hate transphobes.
Wow, never heard this one before too. I wish whomever is directing the bot brigade could maybe update their negative comments algo to freshen them up a bit with new insults.
“everyone who calls out my behavior is a bot” 🤣
“everyone who calls out my behavior is a bot” 🤣
No, but when it repeats approximately every 72 hours, you got to start wondering.
In this way the ai bros won’t use that comment for training LLMs. Because they care about copyright and they would never, for example, download a torrent with 81 terabytes of pirated ebooks
In this way the ai bros won’t use that comment for training LLMs.
Its also to let non-profit open-source projects training their LLMs that they can use my posts/comments.
Be hilarious if it catches on and all the LLM bots start eroneously claiming to be CC licensed.
It’s that boomer Facebook “I don’t consent to use using data” meme in it’s newest form.
It does nothing, but some people think it messes with AI and keep doing it.
Hasn’t it been abundantly clear that no group training an AI cares about the sourcing at all?
Doesn’t mean that they can’t be held responsible for it later.
And are you really supposed to just give up the protections/abilities that you have under the law just because enforcement has been lax?
Pretty much.
You’ll have to search my posting history for an answer to that question.
Genuine question: why is this comment licensed under creative commons?
You’ll have to search my posting history for an answer to that question.
Helpful.
Repetitiveness is not good reading. You’ll have to scroll down a bit to read my side.
Instead of being a dick in response to a simple question, maybe have a quick link saved that you can paste for those responses if you get it fairly often. Many lemmy apps will let you save message drafts to repost. Several Android keyboards (including Gboard) will let you save messages that you can paste in anywhere as well. Or, since you;re probably using something to add that signature to every post anyway. Add another link explaining. Because right now you just look like an asshole in the responses given how easy it is to do that.
Being a dick in response to an honest question will just result in a negative reaction towards all of your posts in general, regardless of your intent. Many people utilize tagging systems to mark specific users they’ve interacted with previously so they don’t bother interacting directly with certain accounts like trolls again since that’s always a waste of time. If your intent is to drive interaction away, then you’re being successful, but it begs the question why you’re bothering to post at all.
It doesnt seem they care about people knowing what the license stuff is about or spreading awareness about it. Its edgy thats what matters
Instead of being a dick in response to a simple question, maybe have a quick link saved that you can paste for those responses if you get it fairly often.
/Picardfacepalm
Hit the ‘Refresh’ button on your browser.
But linking to a post that you are referencing is certainly helpful. (^=
It answers the question being asked, without someone having to go through my posting history.
Its easier to block you.
Yes, please do.
I’ll enjoy Lemmy moreso, not having to respond to comments like this.
What if Elon has already bought them all? It doesn’t take much for a jizzilionaire like him
His wealth is mostly imaginary. If he actually moved to solidify any significant portion of it, it would all collapse as its tied up in very few companies.
When he was at a listed value of 200 billion he had to get 20-30 other groups and governments together for the whole twitter takeover. Which should have been easy for him at the time based on his net worth alone.
- It’s always better to spend the money of others.
- It doesn’t appear that bribing congresspeople is all that expensive. IIRC, it only took $60k to bribe that one congressperson who got caught.
- Just the threat of financing primary challengers appears to be enough to control Republican congresspeople. He’s probably privately doing the same with some Dems too (offering not to finance challengers; he’s already said he will finance challengers to all Democrats).
It doesnt really matter if he can get 200 billion in cash right this instant. His theoretical net worth is enough to get him the influence and power that comes with that kind of money.
I am absolutely not saying that he can’t get enough money up to fuck everything up.
But most of his wealth is Tesla stock. Recall that when he sold only $10 billion of it, the price tanked.
He is only worth $200+ billion if you don’t look at it hard.
What if Elon has already bought them all? It doesn’t take much for a jizzilionaire like him
If we’re going to “what if” why stop there? Why don’t we have Elon kidnapping them and implanting mind control devices in each of their heads. A person with those kind of resources and technology could do such a thing. /s
If I was to take your point seriously, I would suggest the courts would have something to say about that, from lawsuits filed by civilians.
The hyperbole really has to stop. You don’t go from a 0% authoritarianism to 100% in one day/step. Its a process, and we are not there yet (though I do definitely agree we’re starting to lean in that direction).
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lol that URL is great
That’s some good detective work!
You’re mocking me for liking your joke? Confusing
I heard that Warren Buffet bought stocks related to a serious war, like satellite-bassd radio… I am scared.
…or he gets us into a major war
we can’t wineveryone losesThink there’s any chance the draft dodger doesn’t try to reinstate the draft?
Conscription is in Project 2025.
I doubt anyone really wants that, other than possibly the USA and Israel. I hope the rest of the world will curb our worst impulses, since we’re clearly refusing to do it, ourselves.
American here: good. More of this, please.
