• Majorllama@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    What and guys aren’t worried about being murdered by other dudes at night? Lol

    https://www.victimsweek.gc.ca/res/r512.html#%3A~%3Atext=In+that+year%2C+men+were%2Ca+weapon+used+against+them.&text=Young+men+under+the+age%2C-corporate+area)%20than%20women.

    Statistically men are more likely to be attacked, robbed, sexually assaulted (in a public institution) and shot than women.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1388777/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-gender/#%3A~%3Atext=In+2023%2C+the+FBI+reported%2Cfemale+in+the+United+States.

    Men are more likely to be murdered in general.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/423245/us-violent-crime-victims-by-gender/

    Violent crimes happen to men more than women on average.

    I am a HUGE advocate for women staying safe. I think more women need to purchase and properly learn how to use a personal high speed lead slinging device.

    HOWEVER I do not care for this claim that women are always the victims. Statistically they aren’t more frequently attacked or murdered. In fact they are slightly less likely to be victims. Bad people are gonna do bad things and everyone should learn to protect themselves against those bad people.

    DOUBLE HOWEVER Men are overwhelming the perpetrator of violent crimes against everyone. More than 75% of violent crimes is committed by men.

    http://www.statista.com/chart/amp/33058/victims-and-perpetrators-of-reported-violent-crime-in-the-us-by-reported-sex/

    At the end of the day everyone should stay safe. Keep your head on a swivel. Obtain and learn how to use a personal defense tool. Be smart.

    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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      1 hour ago

      I do not care for this claim that women are always the victims.

      who said this?

      honest query. I don’t see it in OP’s statement. You do corroborate their premise -

      Men are overwhelming the perpetrator of violent crimes against everyone. More than 75% of violent crimes is committed by men.

      so why the strawman argument at the start?

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      5 hours ago

      I wonder if the murder rates are skewed by organized crime/gangs. That has a male skewed gender ratio and high murder rates.

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        3 hours ago

        Gangs drive murder rates. Looking at areas in the US without gang activity, the murder rate is almost as low anywhere else in the world.

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        5 hours ago

        Almost certainly.

        Unfortunately it’s very difficult to pull apart big data sets accurately. It’s difficult to pin down what murders are for sure gang related and which ones aren’t. Obviously there are some situations where it’s very clear, but some where it is not. Where you draw that line changes things significantly.

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          Unfortunately it’s very difficult to pull apart big data sets accurately

          The actual fuck? It’s significantly easier to pull apart large data sets, especially to answer demographic questions like this. This is literally Data Science 101, you’re just making shit up!

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          4 hours ago

          almost certainly

          This does not jive with the tenor of your first comment which tries to equate violence against women with violence against men.

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            Did we read the same comment? He was pointing out statistics around males, not downplaying the statistics around women.

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              Isn’t it interesting how whenever women come up someone has to rush to point out men as victims, as if to talk about women detracts from that?

              Curious.

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            He’s just making stuff up anyway. It’s not difficult to pull apart those data sets. The information is readily available. It just doesn’t show the first thing that came out of his mouth is correct.

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      You write like you are disagreeing with something in this post, in your own small pathetic way. But I fail to see what part of the post you are disagreeing with

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      So of the photo was of a man, bit with the same text it would be ok. Right? Both you, me, and the woman in the photo agree that men are the problem.

      “Not all men” agreed, but enough to men to make others afraid.

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        True. The caption doesn’t imply any gender for the potential victim, it just happened the original poster is female.

        If they have to post any statistics at all, it should only be about the criminal, which they did but with a Google AMP link grrrrrrr

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      There are shittons of rape & murder fantasy communities with secretly taken & stolen pictures on porn & snuff websites, on the snuff websites there’s unfortunately also real stuff.

      This is something I really didn’t want to know. I wouldn’t want to walk in the shoes of my gf honestly just judging from the amount of harassment she faces in liberal, progressive western cities by men of all age & skin color (need to say this nowadays unfortunately). Add to that being physically inferior that creates a sense of being constantly threatened. Also, they are targeted specifically because they are women and femicide is a real, bad issue.

      Not disagreeing that anyone could be affected, just saying I can easily walk at night because no one would target me specifically for being a man.

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        7 hours ago

        Clearly you’ve never been jumped lol. It’ll give you a whole new perspective on the world and walking around alone as a guy.

        I find it gross that you referred to your own girlfriend as “physically inferior”. I think the better term is physically at a disadvantage.

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          Since you’re talking to a complete stranger on an anonymous platform it makes no sense to make any assumptions like that.

          English is not my first language, in case that was an offensive formulation I apologize.

          But your response definitely makes me question your intentions.

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            I apologizing for assuming. You said something along the lines of “nobody would jump be just because I’m a man” which tells me you haven’t been assaulted by random guys before in your life. They absolutely will jump you for no reason regardless of your gender. I posted those exact statistics in my first comment.

            And the word “inferior” has a negative connotation connected to it. You usually use it to describe something that is worse in every way. For example: “I only use zip lock bags because other plastic resealable bag brands are all inferior”.

            Your comment about your girlfriend taken at face value came across very sexist. Which is all we can do without knowing someone, how was I supposed to know English is your second language? You use better punctuation than me and it’s the only language I know lol.

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              no one would target me specifically for being a man

              I think you’ve misunderstood. The commenter is not saying that random attacks don’t happen to men, that’s obviously true. But those attacks won’t target you specifically because you are male, which is an additional justification for violence that women have to deal with. I’d argue it’s even more common than women being targeted randomly - or even that random muggings/assaults are actually random. I mean, who’s jumping people that they think are a threat?

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      Wow. That is a whole lot of getting your undies in a wad over a meme that does NOT exclude any gender feeling this way.

      You brought a bunch of bias to this one. Might want to look into why that is