The Republican presidential candidate ridiculously claimed that Biden is “trying to hold” Bibi back, as the Israeli prime minister continued to ruthlessly bomb Lebanon and Gaza.

“He’s doing a good job,” Trump saidabout the Israeli leader. “Biden is trying to hold him back, just so you understand, Biden is more superior to the VP. He’s trying to hold him back, and he probably should be doing the opposite, actually. I’m glad that Netanyahu decided to do what he had to do, but it’s moving along pretty good.”

  • N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    12 days ago

    it’s quite different from Trump’s bombastic rhetoric: He has repeatedly said that Israel has to “finish the job.” The former president’s Friday comments appear to be an attempt to paint Biden, and by extension, Harris, as being less supportive of Israel than him

    Trump wants genocide escalated and completed on a faster timetable. If you don’t think that includes the West Bank in the long-term plan, you’re being naive.

    Biden is trying to get a ceasefire deal from a madman. Harris needs to win the election and can’t if Israel turns against her. Trump actively wants to commit accelerated genocide on Palestinians.

    Anyone who is pro-Palestinian and is thinking about voting for Trump needs to be aware of the long-term consequences.

  • Minarble@aussie.zone
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    11 days ago

    If you are an American voter and you sit this one out or vote 3rd party and Trump gets in you are directly supporting escalation and taking whatever little restraint away that Netanyahu is feeling from the USA.

    Instead of calls for restraint you will have cheerleading from the sidelines.

    • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      I honestly think if you can’t be bothered to vote you need to shut the fuck up, not complain and keep your political opinions to yourself. If you’re not even gonna vote, shut the fuck up. I don’t wanna hear it.

      • sweetpotato@lemmy.ml
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        11 days ago

        Pretty unfortunate for you that there’s free speech then huh? Not letting you spew your dnc propaganda undisturbed

        • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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          11 days ago

          The comment you replied to is also an example of free speech. I see it made you a little butt-hurt that this guy isn’t interested in what you have to say. But that’s the nature of free speech, you can say what you want, but others a free to think you’re a waste of time.

          Perhaps if someone isn’t interested in what you have to say, you shouldn’t bother replying to them.

          • sweetpotato@lemmy.ml
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            10 days ago

            I wouldn’t know since I am not a republican. I’m just absolutely not ok with the Palestinian genocide, but you care so little that you only seen republicans, regardless if the critique comes from the right or from the left. You’d wish you could make me look like a republican.

            • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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              10 days ago

              If you’re gonna help Republicans by staying home or voting third party or some shit you may as well slap on the red hat

              • sweetpotato@lemmy.ml
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                10 days ago

                I know you’d wish that, but unfortunately genocide is too much for me and the least evil argument doesn’t hold up anymore. There are red lines and dnc has absolutely crossed them. I’m not expecting you to understand, you clearly don’t care enough about the genocide.

                • AbidanYre@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                  10 days ago

                  Cool, vote for Stein then. That way you can get three genocides (Gaza, Ukraine, and LGBTQ at home) instead of just one.

                  But for people that actually oppose genocide, Harris is the only vote that will actually accomplish anything.

    • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      10 days ago

      So I see you’re concerned about the mathematical flaws of First past the post voting and the spoiler effect that comes along with it.

      Did you know that alternative electoral systems exist? Ones where there isn’t a spoiler effect even. I feel like most democrats, like yourself, understand these faults quite well.

      So why are you mad about people who want to vote outside the two party system? Shouldn’t your anger be better directed at the two legacy poltical parties that protect this flawed voting system?

      We all understand that republicans like First Past The Post voting. They are moving to protect FPTP voting in states they control. However, democrats say they support democracy. So can you tell me why they continue to use FPTP voting in the majority of states they control?

      It’s not like this is a new issue. Its not like the democratic party just found out about the spoiler effect that comes with First Past The Post voting. Democrats have been quick to point out the flaws of our voting system longer then I’ve been alive.

      Again, if the democrats are so informed of the flaws of the voting system, why does it persist in the vast majority of blue states? Who is preventing this reform? It’s not the republicans… they aren’t in power in these states. In a two party system, that would leave only one political party responsible for this spoiler effect.

      The democrats.

      They have sat on their hands for countless decades, understanding the problem yet doing nothing to resolve the issue.

      So you see, you should be mad at the democratic party for putting their party over the needs of the people. Not the people who want to vote a certain way.

      It’s unreasonable to blame those unrepresented in government for what is. This is what we voted for… again… and again… and again. Over and over. This is the result.

      • AbidanYre@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        10 days ago

        Cool. Do you have a way to implement RCV nationwide in the next two weeks? Because otherwise there are exactly two people with any chance of winning this election.

      • Pup Biru@aussie.zoneEnglish
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        10 days ago

        irrelevant - everyone knows and agrees. that doesn’t change that this election you have exactly 1 choice

        politics is shit. until you have other options, you have to live in the world you live in and not a fantasy

  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    From a purely strategic perspective, is this wise of Trump?

    My impression is that even many American Jewish people don’t like Netanyahu. And he doesn’t need to remind anti-Harris protest voters that he’s even more anti Palestine. Many MAGA diehards don’t even like Netanyahu.

    Like… who is he appealing to? Older Republicans, I guess, who remember Israel’s early days?

  • Chapelgentry@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
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    11 days ago

    C’mon enlightened lefties! Come on and tell me how you won’t be voting for genocide and we should follow so the Democrats figure out through losing the election that they should court lefties. Nevermind we get 4 years of, “he’s doing a good job” as long as Democrats learn to denounce genocide.

    C’mon you fucking cowards, get in here and sell me on how Trump winning helps solve your single issue voting on genocide.

      • Chapelgentry@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
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        11 days ago

        Absolutely no disagreement there. I don’t condone genocide, and think we should do something about it but I’m not foolish enough to think not voting for the lesser of two evils accomplishes this. We are in agreement.

        • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          11 days ago

          Nor am I. Unfortunately, there are plenty of people on lemmy who are so pro-genocide that they cannot abide any criticism of it, no matter how mild. These people immediately assume that anyone who has any misgivings at all about Democrats supporting Netanyahu’s genocide must be a trump supporter.

          I’m looking forward to October 21, when early voting opens in Texas, so I can vote for Harris. That doesn’t mean I must remain silent about genocide.

          • Rhoeri@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            11 days ago

            No one here is pro-genocide. It’s all in your head as a defense mechanism to use against people that disagree with you.

              • Rhoeri@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                10 days ago

                Hey bud, genocide denial isn’t genocide support. And while I truly believe genocide is happening, (mods- take note that I said this as I’m certain they’re reporting me for genocide denial)…

                there will always be other people out there who try and define things by their own terms. This doesn’t make them right- but we all know your false equivalence has no filter, or ability to discern the difference between the two.

                If someone says “I don’t have cancer” when they have cancer, that doesn’t make them pro cancer. It’s just makes them in denial.

                In short- saying that it is’t genocide isn’t saying they would support it if it were. And it’s well known that you constantly accuse everyone that calls you out as a genocide supporter. So since we’re handing our advice….

                Maybe don’t do that.

    • sweetpotato@lemmy.ml
      01·
      11 days ago

      Rather unfortunate for you that the folks complaining about dnc being 100% complicit and funding the genocide, have never ever claimed that Trump is the better choice.

      Also I love the genocide in quotes, really says all you need to know

        • reddit_sux@lemmy.world
          01·
          10 days ago

          For Palestinians he is slightly worse if not the same. So if that is the criteria for the choice, there is insignificant difference between them.

          The difference might be to be killed in a few days (Trump) vs a few weeks to months (Harris).