Other images displayed by Trump during meeting with South African president Cyril Ramaphosa were false or misleading
The evidence of supposed mass killings of white South Africans presented by Donald Trump in a tense White House meeting on Wednesday were in some cases images from the Democratic Republic of Congo, while footage shown during the meeting was falsely portrayed as depicting “burial sites”.
“These are all white farmers that are being buried,” said Trump, holding up a print-out of an article accompanied by a picture during the contentious Oval Office meeting with South African President Cyril Ramaphosa.
The picture accompanying the article was in fact a screengrab of a video published by Reuters on 3 February and subsequently verified by the news agency’s fact check team, showing humanitarian workers lifting body bags in the Congolese city of Goma. The image was pulled from Reuters footage shot after deadly battles with Rwanda-backed M23 rebels.
“Look at me, i am the fake news now” -Dictator Donnie
Now???
- the rest of the world
Doesn’t mean that we don’t have a violence issue in South Africa. Our killing stats are on par with countries at war. Think about that for a minute
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No one is saying that South Africa doesn’t have a violence problem just that “white genocide” is a lie.
Indeed the president of South Africa said exactly that in the meeting.
I recall the SA president saying they do have a violence problem, just not in the way trump is describing it.
Yes sorry I was unclear. The South African president said that South Africa has a violence problem, not just for white farmers.
Any theories why?
Well I did a little research and there was this thing called Apartheid. It sounded pretty bad. Might have something to do with the race relations out there.
I was 6 years old when apartheid ended. My parents and many white people didn’t agree with it. You probably don’t know much about it. I had fuck all to do with it, but because I happen to be white it is my fault?
Our major problem is unemployment, our government policies are not business friendly. Keep hammering at that keyboard pal.
Nowhere in my comment did I say apartheid was your fault. Please read White Fragility and then look in the mirror.
That’s not what he’s saying, he says that due to Apartheid there are still some racial tensions and it’s also a reason for said unemployment and poverty.
It has been 32 years since. Many people still live in poverty if the ANC actually cared about the people they would have sorted out education, but keep the masses uneducated and they will vote for you. A pass rate in SA is 30% to push up pass statistics. A fucking joke.
Make policies that encourage investment and job creation.
Get a police force that is actually competent.
All our SOEs are running at losses and require constant bail outs. Our rail system is fucked. Our energy supply is fucked. Our water supply is near fucked. Our roads are fucked. Way too much corruption causing this. Officials looting money that is meant for the people of the nation. I could go on.
Fix root causes.
But populism over logical policies…
I heard the photos were supplied by the US based neo fucking Nazi group American Tinker.
I don’t think anybody in our federal government that’s in charge of anything has any good intentions at all at this point
Like he can tell the difference.
Ramaphosa was right to ask “I’d like to know where that is”, when the “evidence” was shown to him live.
Other world leaders should be prepared to challenge Trump right to his face when he fabricates lies like this in those pathetic ambush attempts.
No other world leader should accept an invite to the WH. Right now it’s 100% an ambush.
Also doesn’t mean that the radical party EFF lead by Julius Malema (also known as Cunt) does not sing Kill the Boer at the rallies. Boer is Afrikaans for a farmer, it is also common slang for a white Afrikaner. If you think that is ok to do, you can fuck right off.
That’s a far cry from genocide though
Kill the Boar
I’ll be honest with you I don’t give a god damn fuck. Kids getting bombed in Gaza, whatever trump cares about I do not. if he cares about white African farmers I do not.
My comment had nothing to say about Gaza. But OK I understand your view, killing of some is ok…
Can you point me to any examples of white genocide in South Africa? Surely there would be at least one news article.
Look at my other comment. I said their is a massive violence problem in south Africa. It’s a fact. When you have 25000 killings in a year that is not normal. Children, old women being raped and hacked to death. Anyone for that matter is not OK. You all don’t understand the situation you choose what you want to read, when you have family or friends that have been killed violently let’s talk again. Keep banging at those keyboards. At least my country had the balls to take Israel to the icj. I fucking dare one of you to spend 6 months here, I bet you wouldn’t last a fucking week.
Edit: here is one https://iol.co.za/sunday-tribune/news/2022-12-04-son-says-parents-were-soft-targets-in-farm-killing/
Where did I deny the violence in South Africa? I don’t deny that at all, and I sympathize with your plight as someone in the USA. I’m calling you out for conflating it with genocide, which is a terrible lie being pushed by really shitty people on the right.
It doesn’t matter what you said, I’m speaking about the goals of Trump which are part of what you’re talking about and my point stands.
If there was a button that I could press and kill one white African to save one person in Gaza I’d be pressing it all day long. White Africans are fine, often descendants of assholes and usually assholes themselves. They’re fine
If there’s a continent where white genocide is justified, Africa sure is a front runner!
Lying liar lies again.
You can tell he is lying because he’s talking
Honestly, I don’t know if he’s knowingly lying or just genuinely fucking stupid.
In his defence (feels dirty and weird typing that) he’s probably being lied to. I have very little clue about the legitimacy of information I get on world news, as everybody has an agenda and misinformation is so easy to create and disseminate. If he’s got to be on the case with basically every issue, he’ll just be getting fed information and has to trust that his advisors know what they’re doing. I wouldn’t bother fact checking everything if I were in that position, there’s simply not enough hours in the day.
Of course he’s also a confirmed liar and a known prick so who knows.
Fun fact, it’s both! He knows he’s lying all the time and doesn’t care. He’s also stupid.
That is certainly a fact, but I’m not sure I’d consider it a fun one.
My theory is that he’s so narcissistic that he genuinely believes every thought that comes into his mind is the truth.
This is the right answer. Life has already shown him that operating on a level playing field and being honest, really doesn’t get a guy like him very far. So the genius workaround is to lie your pants off instead, and build an alternative environment around yourself where you can’t lose.
Fascists can never admit that they’re wrong, becauae then their vaneer of being infallible immediately falls apart.
I still remember back in 2015-2016 when 4chan called Trump “God Emperor.” That mentality hasn’t gone away. Fascism is a cult.
The only “truth” that fascists believe is the “truth” of the fascist leader. Trump even calls his social media platform “Truth Social” FFS. It couldn’t be more blatent.
he would have said that these were real coffins for white farmers children if they didn’t have the palestinian flag on them.
Well
Where is Congo?
Is it in the north?
I rest my case /s
A lot of really distateful comments here, genuinely surprised they weren’t deleted by mods
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I once got into an argument with a south African on reddit about white genocide. Even over there it’s a political issue, but the way he and many people describe it makes it seem like if you even set foot there as a white person you’ll get mugged.
I was saying I lived there for six months, spent a lot of town in the townships where it was only black people, and I legit never once was harmed. Yeah it’s dangerous but like, they act like they’ve never been in a dangerous neighborhood in the states.
But because I was an American sharing this perspective and they were South African, I got relentlessly shamed by redditors. To be fair I get where they’re coming from. If you have no clue about the issue and someone from another country trying to say something said about that persons own country is BS, it doesn’t look good. But it’s literally a political topic and he was coming at it from the extreme right perspective. Because I’m an American, like a dozen people took away from that thread that white genocide is real.
Quick, post it a third time
It just applies in so many situations!!! 🤷♂️
funny how the racists come out in the comments as soon as any thread mentions white genocide.
