• Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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    This is a blast from the past when Bush went for steel tariffs

    In retaliation, the European Union threatened to counter with tariffs of its own on products ranging from Florida oranges to cars produced in Michigan, with each tariff calculated to likewise hurt the President in a key marginal state. The United States backed down and withdrew the tariffs on December 4.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_United_States_steel_tariff

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      Difference is that Trump doesn’t give a shit about support for the next election. He only cares to please Putin.

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            None. That’s the point. He needs their support so they continue not blocking him.

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              So as of now it’s none?
              Because he hasn’t already been crazy enough for congress to stop him?
              Republicans in congress are crazy too, and it requires qualified majority (66%) to stop an executive order AFAIK.

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                So as of now it’s none?

                As of now. But there are some who are already making a push back and even Fox news are starting to question Trump. After all, Trump keeps flip flopping because obviously some are already expressing frustrations behind closed doors.

                If the silly tariff threats goes on long enough, enough people will become overtly angry.

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                  The day I see some real serious push-back against Trump, will be a day for celebration.
                  And by real serious, I mean a lot more than just impeachment that turns out nothing, or the cancellation of a few presidential orders.
                  I mean real attempts to actually stop him from destroying USA and democracy.

                  I’m not American, but I don’t enjoy seeing USA being destroyed like it is now. We need more sensible leaders in the world, not fewer.

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        Yeah. He had Cheney as his handler. The same Cheney who was on stage talking about great Harris is.

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        He did have a sort of handler co-president though, so that hasn’t changed

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    The American Chamber of Commerce to the E.U. said the U.S. tariffs and E.U. countermeasures “will only harm jobs, prosperity and security on both sides of the Atlantic.”

    You don’t say…

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      My dude, what you forget to see is that this harms the EU a little, it harms the US a little. The same goes for Canada, goes for China, goes for Mexico, but it will add up for the US.

      In the meantime, the allies you try so hard to alienate are teaming up and using this opportunity to form tighter bonds, leaving you behind.

      (I mean the US politician, not OP)

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        Also, if Canada isn’t selling as much to the US, Canada can sell to the EU. It’s not as convenient but the EU, Canada and Mexico will happily trade with each other.

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        On the other side, we all know that he doesn’t give a rat’s ass about what happens to the country as long as his bank account gets swol.

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        I have only seen american and not red state specific. granted the only thing out of the eu article is bourbon and I don’t drink much and when I do its more likely vodka anyway.

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          I assure you, the actual Canadian list is painfully detailed. One item specifically listed is fitted cases for church bells.

          Florida oranges and Ohio appliances are two prominent ones I hear mentioned fairly often.

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            ohio in particular im disapointed in. like I understand alabama and kentucky with their education but ohio is a massive disapointment.

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    I’m actually not OK with this, TBH. First, it very much better than bending the knee, but if they’re going to impose tariffs, they need to be on the country. Plenty of democrats in those red states and plenty of republicans in blue states either will or won’t “get what they voted for.” In the end, we all should pay for this travesty.

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        Thought I spelled it out pretty clearly: tariffs on the entirety of the US instead of just “red states.”

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          But, NY didn’t vote for Trump… And neither did CA.

          So, punish the people who DID vote for Trump.

          Don’t worry, states like NY and CA are being hit by Trump himself.