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Summary
Jocelynn Rojo Carranza, an 11-year-old girl from Gainesville, Texas, died by suicide after enduring months of bullying over her family’s immigration status.
Classmates allegedly mocked her and threatened to report her family to ICE. The school was aware of the bullying but failed to notify Carranza’s family.
Her mother, Marbella Carranza, only learned of the harassment after her daughter’s death and is now working with investigators and the school to understand what happened and why she was not notified.
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Never let the intolerant win.
RIP Jocelynn. The Hispanics should move out of Texas and watch the shithole collapse.
The MAGAts are sub-human shit.
Unfortunately, Texas does a great job of brainwashing a lot of people with Texan pride. Most of them are probably of the “Texas is the best” mindset.
The shitty MAGAts and their elected officials should be thrown out of TX. A lot of Mexican-Americans around there have been in the state for generations, some families live across each other on either side of the border. I get the sentiment, but it’s these racist assholes that need to be driven out.
God damn , I hope these good Christians will burn in hell.
They’re celebrating. This is what they want. They want all Hispanic people gone. They never cared about immigration or legal status, they hate Hispanics and they want them all gone, and children are the Hispanics they hate the most. I don’t know if you’ve ever really listened to their rhetoric, but ‘‘I drove by a school and all the kids were Mexicans’’ is a BIG taking point on the right and has been for decades. They want out kids gone by any means.
I never understood them. The American Southwest always had a very large hispanic population… I mean they were there before settlers from the US came along, even racist cartoons from the 1890s and 1900s showed hispanic looking people as being part of the culture there.
This isn’t a common problem, you have an isolated incident with stupid asses.
I know, just around me that they can look at their black ass, hateful souls, “read” the new testament, and mental gymnastic themselves into believing they good, upstanding Christians.
This is the stupidest thing I’ve read all day. I’m Hispanic, nobody wants all of us gone. Stop fear mongering. This is an issue about illegal immigration, from any country.
Has little to do with illegal immigration, its a veil for racism and bigotry for the vast majority.
Im a white guy, they might not say it you to be polite but they sure as fuck think i’m an asshole like them and are happy to say it to me.
Your white guilt must be killing you man. Throughout my entire life I’ve never one felt any kind of racism, from anyone but other Mexicans, who would talk down on my and my brother because we “looked white” and didn’t speak Spanish. Silly.
You been Hispanic this whole time and you haven’t talked to one white person who hates all messicans. And all their kids? At the school specifically? Why do you live where you never talk to white people?
My grandparents came here legally and are super conservative, and they raised us the same. We don’t have any pity for illegals, from any country, even Mexico. Believe it or not, not every single Mexican thinks, acts, or feels the same. I know that’s hard to believe because a lot of us have been brainwashed to think only Democrats care. Trump doesn’t “hate Mexicans.” He’s trying to curb the illegal immigration problem, and the issue is, much of that problem is coming South of the border. This has turned into a “Trump hates all Mexicans!” propaganda machine from the Left, and it’s just ridiculous.
I’m willing to bet when your grandparents came here, it was a lot less difficult to enter the country legally than it is now. Why do you think we put up so many legal obstacles?
I’m sure it was, but are you saying that things should be easier to get into our country? I don’t understand this logic that the Left has… things are changing rapidly in our world, crime, drugs, human trafficking… are all issues that weren’t around years ago…our immigration policies are in place to try and regulate these things. Are you suggesting we should make it easier on people?
I’m athiest but deep down hope there is a hell. Just to see all those “christians” down there.
Unfortunately they won’t because it undeniably doesn’t exist and they know it too
“It [the bullying] had gotten so aggressive, Carranza was meeting with a school counselor multiple times a week. Her family, however, was never notified.”
What the literal fuck. The bullies said the bullying wouldn’t ease up until her family got deported. She was meeting with the school counselor several times a week and the school didn’t separate the bullies out? They didn’t notify the parents? I hope people are held personally liable. Your beloved little girl taking her own life is an unimaginable tragedy.
The president is setting such a shameful example.
That’s what hit me the hardest too. This was completely preventable. The lack of response by the school is even more to blame than the bullies. The knot in my stomach wants to deck that school counselor.
I agree that the adults here are the most responsible, but I hope those kids understand the gravity of what they’ve done.
They may not at 11 years old, but this is the sort of thing that sticks with you. We can only hope this teaches them empathy rather than fueling more of this sociopathic behavior they’re likely emulating from their parents.
I hope that the family of Jocelyn files numerous wrongful death lawsuits. The school failed. the bullies and their parents failed.
It’s probably exactly zero consolation, but damn.
I hope it haunts them deep in their core for the rest of their lives and they live deep in moral debt in a futile attempt to break-even but simultaneously knowing they never will.
Whether this “breaks even” is a trolley problem, but it’s pretty easy to save lives. Just donate blood, mosquito nets, and vaccinations. It’s just paralyzing because you can’t save everyone.
It won’t. Probably glad their is one less immigrant.
I was thinking she can’t even sue, without risking her own precarious safety.
Do we even know that her mother is here illegally? The article doesn’t mention and kids are assholes.
Even in my time the person who reported the bullying was treated worse than the bullies, and I’ve been out of school for a while. From what I’ve heard, it’s been getting much worse.
Nobody will be held liable. It will be spun as a horrible tragedy and the school will move on.
Yet they pass these laws forcing teachers to rat on trans kids. Bet if this poor kid went by Carlos instead of Carranza they would have called right away!
These motherfuckers.
I don’t understand this. why would her last name being Carlos change anything? that’s not even a last name
I mean you could just figure out that I clearly misunderstood what her first name was.
ok I see I was a little confused
He’s setting a shameful example while feeling shameless, that’s the part that boggles my mind… like the one day he signed more of his ‘executive orders’, upsetting who knows how many people’s lives again, then hopped away afterwards to go golfing.
I hope the school is sued into bankruptcy. And that all the bullies are suspended indefinately. Why didn’t the councilor call the parents?
Prolife. Smh
It’s just pro-birth. They don’t give a fuck after the cog I mean baby comes out
I grew up illegal in the US. I was brought on a travel visa at the age of 5 and it wasn’t until my mid 20s that I became a citizen.
I vividly remember being in elementary school, around her age, in music class where we were learning the national anthem. The entire class would stand up and we should sing “I’m proud to be an American” and I remember silently crying as I stood up and sang the song.
I cried because I understood even at that age that I was not an American. I was part of everything while simultaneously always being detached from everything. Never fitting in, but pretending to. I think long-term it created a strange sense of detachment from society. This shit fucks you up and it’s heavy stuff for a child to process. It wasn’t until my adulthood that I really started to understand and internalize a positive narrative from my upbringing. An 11 year old child does not have the capacity to process this.
And I’m in my 30s now- I grew up illegal before social media and before this xenophobic outburst started circa 2016. I’d imagine it’s so much worse today.
I feel for this little girl. I feel for all the children in the country who’s only crime was existing. Obama, while famously being the deporter-in-chief (both Obama terms aw more deported than Trump’s first term), at least did offer DACA as an executive order for these children.
Really, I think you can tell the state of a society by how they treat the vulnerable. And the US is getting increasingly brutal and cruel. We’re in for a wild fascist ride, comrades. It’s only just begun.
You are an American.
Thank you. I feel like one these days. Especially after the naturalization ceremony. This is a country of immigrants and I’m part of it. I’m not ashamed of it anymore. I was when I was younger.
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Never fitting in, but pretending to
Not trying to deny your experience or anything like that, but a lot of people feel that way, especially around that age, are you sure it was because of your lack of citizenship? I know I have always felt like that, and I was born in Boston, Mayflower descendant too…
Not the point, I know.
you’re correct it’s not a unique experience to feel isolated from the rest of your peers. i feel like it’s an experience that might actually be increasing. i think social media ironically adds to this in the youth. many biracial people also experience something like this (ie, too white for the blacks, too black for the whites)
when i got here initially i moved to a place where nobody spoke my native language. so when i went to school, i would get put in a class all by myself with a nice lady who would hold flash cards with pictures on them. she would show me a card, it would say something like “cat” or “ball” and then she would repeat them over and over.
so the first year or so of primary school I was alone in a room because I didn’t speak english yet. really what eventually taught me english was cable TV
another element in the experience is being afraid of authority. the police were dangerous because at any moment if they caught us the family could get separated and we could get deported. one time my parents were cleaning an office late at night (they worked in cleaning when they first arrived in US) and they brought me with.
i didn’t understand what a fire alarm was so i pulled it. my parents, scared that the authorities would arrive and see a young child, took me and put me in the backseat of the car where people’s feet usually go and they put a blanket on me. they told me to be very quiet and not make a sound otherwise we could all be deported. so i hid in that car for an hour or so until the emergency services left
i share these things not to say i had a hard life or anything like that. I think I had a good upbringing. and I understand many Americans have had much worse experiences and also feel alienated as well.
But I share these things just because the story in the OP touched me because I was that 11 year old child once. It’s a life and a set of experiences a lot of Americans don’t really think about very much. Or at least historically has been more or less ignored.
Nowadays illegals have attention but unfortunately an overwhelmingly peaceful people become “rapists and murderers”. if you look up statistics, illegals are 2-4x less likely to commit crime than native born americans (if you get any charge at all, you can get deported… even if you get acquitted or the charges dropped!). so naturally they tend to be more careful breaking laws
Wanting to reaffirm that no matter what anyone says you’re just as valued and important as anyone else in this country.
I hope that one day our society and law will accurately reflect reality.
Wishing the same for my family and friends who bear the same burdens. It’s very depressing our world is still caught up in racial problems and not important problems like food and shelter.
thank you, i appreciate the kind words. like i said, after processing and coming to terms with my upbringing, I see it as a positive these days. I got a unique outlook on life that most people don’t have the privilege to see.
I know things about this country Americans don’t have any clue about. By being sort of “in between” cultures, it lets you zoom out more easily. the world which was once small gets bigger.
It’s very depressing our world is still caught up in racial problems and not important problems like food and shelter.
I think people are scared. Americans are insecure about their future. Financially, emotionally, and societally.
I think we have to go through this painful phase but we will come out the other side with a new 21st century ideology. Once that fixes the contradictions of the 20th century one we still have.
At least you had a little defense from the indoctrination… You do understand that’s what it was? Countries don’t usually do that to kids.
exactly this. later on as an adult I realized I had my own path and that path was always going to be different from the average. got me thinking differently, opened my mind, etc. I think also knowing 3 languages helps
ideology gets impressed upon you at an early age already, especially here in the US.
Is that the pro life, they’ve been talking about
Unfortunately, that’s mission accomplished for team red, as that’s one fewer brown person growing up to take yer jerbs.
This was not a suicide. The Trump regime and her classmates murdered her.
At 11? Christ, that is devastating.
Yeah I’m kinda speechless. It doesn’t bear thinking about but I kinda wonder how aware she was of the consequences of what she was doing.
If it doesn’t bear thinking about, remove your comment.
She was fucking 11, you dumbass.
Sorry I don’t really understand what’s so dumb about this question.
If she actually intended suicide (which we don’t know), then to what extent did she understand the permanence of death in the context of the transience of feelings.
What you’re failing to understand is that you’re being an insufferable twat. Do you ask this about adults, too? There are very few people pushed to suicide who consider how transient feelings are, and that’s hardly the point here. You don’t have to face tragedy with obnoxiousness.
I promise you, at 11 you know what death is. And it’s the ADULTS responsibility to protect you anyway. Why are you blaming the victim?
How can you promise that? I’ll admit I didn’t fully understand it then, I didn’t have any deaths in my close family until much later, so I never had to reconcile with it.
Oh you’re asking if she could relatively conceive of what life would be like without her in it, especially to her family and friends. If she had that level of mindfulness and could pre-meditate the consequences.
I mean, she was 11. And even fully grown adults can barely know what the consequences of their actions will be, so I doubt this was ever something considered.
It was probably a combination of short-term pain felt by herself and shame felt towards her family that led to the breaking point. Makes me dissociate just thinking about this story
What the OP doesn’t realize is that if one is at the point of suicide, the loss to their family and friends doesn’t even cross their minds no matter the age.
All they can think of is ending the pain. Doesn’t matter if you’re 11 or 30.
The comment is stupid and clearly OP has never spoken with a suicidal person before. All they’re doing is victim blaming.
Alternatively, they do think of their loved ones but through the lens of, “their lives would be better without me.”
I can’t help but wonder if her bullies may have made this poor girl think she might be responsible if her parents faced repercussions from immigration policies. Regardless, it’s a tragedy that a life was lost so young and it’s inconceivable that the school took no action that may have prevented it.
What was she doing?
Committing suicide?
Right nevermind then. I interpreted your statement as if the girl was doing something wrong that caused her to bullied into suicide
The US regime believes in notifying parents, irrespective of the possible harm, if their child might be gay or trans but won’t bother with bullying so severe it leads to suicide. The US is fucked.
Fucked up
As a parent this is extremely disturbing. Not only for the topic but that the child felt the need to take her own life instead of asking for help.
On the other side I am very involved with my children and ask them constantly how school is going. If they are having issues they always tell me so I can help. My concern is the daughter did not feel like her parents would help which is why she did not tell them. She would rather take her life. These parents need to take a hard look at why their daughter didn’t want to come to them either this. My heart goes out to the family.
Maybe the daughter knew the parents were already anxious about the growing bigotry surrounding them. The school had already shown her it wasn’t going to help so she may have felt she’d be adding to a burden that her parents couldn’t do anything about. If you want to blame someone, the bullies and the school seem like the appropriate targets.
And yeah, lots of people think their kids tell them everything until they find out their kids are keeping secrets.
And I’m sure that MAGA scum are cheering about it.
MAGA are all about keeping the children unsafe.
There’s no greater threat to a child than a Trump supporter.
Yes but God loves fetuses!
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Jesus FUCK.
Rage. This is so incredibly tragic. I’m sitting here at 6:45 AM just crying when I should be getting ready for work. This is the type of world they’re trying to build.
This is the type of world that is already and needs to be dismantled.
And those responsible must not be allowed to reenter society and be forgotten. They cannot be simply ignored anymore. Fuck all of them and anyone who would support this. I wish we had the time as a society or as a planet for more options, but the clock is ticking.
The bullies are modern day Hitlerjugend
