Hello World, As many of you have probably noticed, there is a growing problem on the internet when it comes to undisclosed bias in both amateur and professional reporting. While not every outlet can be like the C-SPAN, or Reuters, we also believe that it’s impossible to remove the human element from the news, especially when it concerns, well, humans.

To this end, we’ve created a media bias bot, which we hope will keep everyone informed about WHO, not just the WHAT of posted articles. This bot uses Media Bias/Fact Check to add a simple reply to show bias. We feel this is especially important with the US Election coming up. The bot will also provide links to Ground.News, as well, which we feel is a great source to determine the WHOLE coverage of a given article and/or topic.

As always feedback is welcome, as this is a active project which we really hope will benefit the community.

Thanks!

FHF / LemmyWorld Admin team 💖

  • sandbox@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Given the overwhelmingly negative response from the community, what is the justification for leaving the bot in place? Is it because the moderators think they know better than everyone else?

    • Rooki@lemmy.worldOP
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      2 months ago

      Overwhelmingly negative? Those are the 24/7 negative users. We do anything: Those guys: THIS IS IS A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY

      So you stand alone in that statement. See the post vote score.

      We give you the option to block it. Block it.

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        2 months ago

        Got it, only enthusiastic yes men are actually counted as valid members of the community.

        Interesting take, gotta admit.

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      2 months ago

      Well, it’s more that the mods know that people don’t have an alternative

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    2 months ago

    It has been pointed out multiple times that mbfc is ran by a Zionist.

    There is no way the mod team is not aware of this by now so it must be on purpose.

    • zephyreks@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      Because it’s free money for MBFC

      The mods on this community have always had a rather unhealthy relationship with MBFC

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    2 months ago

    I think having this post isn’t a great idea because you are just assuming the websites bias are legit. At the very least there needs to be a lot of warnings in the bots post about the websites biases and the methodology they use so the reader can come to their own conclusion.

    Just looking over the methodlogy it’s clear that it has it’s own biases:

    American Bias

    The website itself says it’s distinctions of left and right are US based which is very skewed from the rest of the world. There should be a disclaimer or it shouldn’t be used in any world news communities.

    Centrist Bias

    The website follows the idea of “enlightened centrism” since if it determines a website has a left/right lean (again arbitrary) it affects the factual ratings of the sources.

    Examples of this are: FAIR only getting the 2nd highest rating despite never having failed a fact check.

    The Intercept getting only a “mostly factual” rating (3rd highest) despite their admittance it has never failed a fact check.

    Despite my personal opinions on the pointlessness of using a US based left/right bias criteria I’d feel better if it was at least kept it it’s own section but when you allow it to affect the factual rating of the source it’s just outright wrong. The factual accuracy of the website should be the sole thing that affects this rating.

    Questionable Fact Checking

    Even just checking some of their ratings raises doubts on the websites credibility.

    The ADL is rated as high (2nd highest) and wasn’t found to fail any fact checks.

    The ADL was found to be so unreliable on it’s reporting of the Israel-Palestine conflict it is considered an unreliable source by Wikipedia.

    “Wikipedia’s editors declared that the Anti-Defamation League cannot be trusted to give reliable information on the Israel-Palestine conflict, and they overwhelmingly said the ADL is an unreliable source on antisemitism.”

    Maybe Wikipedia editors are a good arbiter of truth and maybe they aren’t but as people can see there isn’t a consensus and so by choosing Media Bias/Fact Check you’re explicitly choosing to align your “truth” with this websites biases.

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      2 months ago

      This is a really well-reasoned response… Which probably means the mods will ignore it

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    2 months ago

    While I’m not as concerned with MBFC as many others are, why not use Wikipedia’s RSP as the datasource? Made by the most reliable user-generated platform in the world, it’s a great list of controversial sources and is completely open. Changes are also infrequent enough so that adding to the database by hand would be quite easy.

    I also echo the concerns raised below on the uselessness at a glance due to the accordion hiding the only information and purpose the bot was created to serve.

    • zephyreks@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      Because the mods on this community would rather choose a source that they agree with than a source that’s reliable.