• nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
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      Making the German state officially state that this is Nazi imagery would be a worthwhile win lol.

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        I’m pretty sure they have explicitly come out and said that the gesture was what we all know it to be. I’m sure the Internet can verify it for you though

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          Not sure about anyone from the government much less in an official function but e.g. the Zeit used the title “A Hitler salute is a Hitler salute is a Hitler salute”, and the rest of the press isn’t any more ambiguous, either.

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      It is with few exceptions. Given that it looks like the purpose is to call out a Nazi supporter I think they wouldn’t get in trouble for that though.

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        It’s not exactly uncommon for systems set up to oppose something to end up supporting them instead. See the ADL covering for Elon and condemning those opposed to genocide as antisemitic. In theory the ADL should be opposed to fascism, but because Israel has become fascist they found themselves on the same side as those who had been and would be their oppressors.

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          In the United States, teenage kids were put on the sex offenders registry for sending each other nudes. Those laws are in place to protect minors from people who are not minors, but apparently the judges did not see it that way in sentencing. Gotta love the word of the law being worth more than its spirit!

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          When one’s ideological architecture if reliant on the idea that people are defined by ethnicity, whole ethnicities are good/victims and others are bad/aggressors and the ethnicity of a person determines how he or she should be treated, Fascism is but a miniscule distance away.

          This applies to Israel (whose constitution very literally says the country is a nation of a single ethnicity and all those of that ethnicity are its nationals) and its sockpuppets around the World, as does in Germany where the authorities have once again revealed their black heart in connection to the Israeli Genocide.

          I suspect a lot of those pseudo-idologies and organisations just served to hide those with a Fascist heart during the period when Fascism was “unfashionable” and now that it’s on the rise again they’re coming out in support of Fascists but using the language of the pseudo-ideology that so successfully made them seem movements for good rather than just another variant of Racist.

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        Nope it’s legal. §303 StGB:

        Whoever, without being authorised to do so, substantially and permanently alters the appearance of an object belonging to another […]

        Projections are far from permanent. What I’m blanking on right now is whether cleaning something is captured under that wording, I vaguely remember them discussing changing it, dunno if they have. If a wall is dirty enough you can make a great graffito with nothing but a pressure washer.

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          Yes. You can even use a swastika if the intend is clear. For example a figure throwing it into a trashcan.

          I’m not a lawyer, but the word “Heil” ist not forbidden and Also its a picture of something relevant that happened. So in my opinion the Art itself is not illegal. Only the projection onto the building.

          Someone correct me if I’m wrong.