MADISON, Wis. – Four independent presidential candidates have filed signatures and paperwork to appear on the November ballot, the Wisconsin Elections Commission announced Tuesday.

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    You want to get rid of FPTP? Have 3rd parties actually win?

    Ignore the presidential race completely. It’s literally irrelevant to third parties and you are wasting your breath with a symbolic vote that isn’t worth the paper it is printed on. I’m glad it’ll make you feel better when the rabid fascists successfully suppress enough other progressive votes to win the rest of the election up and down ballot, and then oopsie you can’t vote anymore teehee how’d that happen?

    Start at the local level. Campaign for ranked choice voting at the county and state level. Get independents and progressives in at the lower city, county and state wide offices that actually DO have an impact on setting election policy and can build the groundwork that actually lets 3rd parties get a chance. All of this tunnel vision on the high profile presidential race has forever ruined every 3rd party’s chance of even existing, because they absolutely refuse to put any kind of effort into the races that matter.

    RCV is on the ballot in Oregon for November. I have high hopes it will pass, given our state’s general electoral leaning. These kinds of movements have been brewing for all those years you are bitching and moaning about “ohhh but next year” but never get much traction due to hand-wringing about the national bullshit. So shut the hell up and MAKE IT HAPPEN LOCALLY, QUIT BITCHING ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE!

    and with that in mind, maybe you should vote for the candidate most likely to support a change to RCV and actually win.

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      Start at the local level.

      What makes you think I haven’t. I totally stumped for my local green party. And the green party has won local elections: Californians have elected 55 of the 226 office-holding Greens nationwide. Other states with high numbers of Green elected officials include Pennsylvania (31), Wisconsin (23), Massachusetts (18) and Maine (17). Maine has the highest per capita number of Green elected officials in the country and the largest Green registration percentage with more than 29,273 Greens comprising 2.95% of the electorate as of November 2006.[68] Madison, Wisconsin is the city with the most Green elected officials (8), followed by Portland, Maine (7).

      maybe you should vote for the candidate most likely to support a change

      Oh, I am. I’m voting for Jill Stein as president this November. Proudly so. I have the shirt, the bumper stickers, I volunteer. It’s awesome.

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        I have the shirt, the bumper stickers

        That’s creepy and weird just like how it’s creepy and weird with the whole trump cult. It’s politics, not some concert for a band

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          That’s creepy and weird just like how it’s creepy and weird with the whole trump cult. It’s politics, not some concert for a band

          So you think all the people who have the Biden, and now Harris stickers and shirts are creepy and weird?

          She just talked at a convention and there were thousands wearing Harris shirts.

          You think that’s creepy and weird?! All those democrats are creepy and weird?

          Ok, man, good luck!

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            Yes, it’s creepy and weird. I dgaf what ‘side’ your on. It’s politics, not some fan club. It’s all around weird and creepy.

            You think you’re doing some kinda gotcha thing? Lol add pathetic to the pile just for you

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              Yes, it’s creepy and weird. I dgaf what ‘side’ your on. It’s politics, not some fan club. It’s all around weird and creepy.

              Ok, be sure to tell the thousands of people that wear Biden-Harris shirts that.

              You realize that EVERY party has people who like to wear their shirts, right?

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                You realize that it’s still creepy and weird to idolize parties of politics right.

                I don’t care what ‘side’ does it. It’s creepy and weird. Stop trying to spin this like you know my political stance. I’m staying neutral for a reason.