• Carrolade@lemmy.world
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    See, there’s your subtle lie again. I’m not trying to dictate your beliefs, I’m just pointing out patterns. You can believe them or not as you wish. I’m not trying to control you, I’m making sure information is provided to the community. I’m not trying to force you to explain anything, or abuse you, I’m not persecuting you. I’m just disagreeing with you, that’s it. All the persecution is in that cute little head of yours.

    Oh, I have no interest in blocking you. I’d much rather watch you and use you as an educational example. A lot of people on here are ignorant of more advanced trolling techniques, which makes them vulnerable. A small silver lining of your existence is that you help remedy this.

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      I’m not trying to dictate your beliefs

      I didn’t say you were. Do you think that everytime I point out something or say something, it’s some little lie or deceit to trick you! lmao

      I’m not trying to control you

      Because you can’t. :)

      I’m just disagreeing with you, that’s it.

      Cool! I’m disagreeing with you too. So are we friends now?!

      I’d much rather watch you and use you as an educational example.

      I love that you think of me so much and are so interested in me! Thank you!!

      A lot of people on here are ignorant of more advanced trolling techniques, which makes them vulnerable.

      I’m not sure what you mean. Who is trolling here? Why are you being so vague?

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        Sure you did. Right here:

        Why would I let your opinions—or anyone else’s on Lemmy—dictate what I believe?

        To which I responded that I am simply disagreeing with you, not trying to “dictate your beliefs”. That’s your persecution lie, a bit of a cornerstone of your persona on here.

        I still haven’t fully settled on if you’re doing it intentionally or you’re just really, really Christian. The persecution complex is extremely common in the devout, stemming from their stories about the early days of the church. But yes, I suspect you probably are a troll.

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          Sure you did. Right here: Why would I let your opinions—or anyone else’s on Lemmy—dictate what I believe?

          That’s not a lie. That’s a question. And a valid one. :)

          To which I responded that I am simply disagreeing with you, not trying to “dictate your beliefs”.

          And I responded to that by saying that I disagree with you. And I asked if we could be friends now.

          I still haven’t fully settled on if you’re doing it intentionally or you’re just really, really Christian.

          Soooo now you are bringing religion into it? Wow. Ok. But since I have my beliefs in username and profile, I can respond to that. I’m actually a Mormon Satanist. :)

          And again, I don’t care if you think I’m a troll. I know I’m not. The mods here know I’m not, which is why I haven’t been banned.

          It’s clear you’re frustrated because you haven’t convinced me to change my mind on anything, and now you’re just trying to label me.

          In fact, not only have you not changed my mind, you have strengthened my resolve not to vote Democrat, because I associate you and other hateful people with Democrats now and I want no part of that party. Ever.

          So, ironically, you’ve actually made me more determined to stay true to my convictions.

          See? You’re doing great, friend!

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            And again, I don’t care if you think I’m a troll. I know I’m not. The mods here know I’m not.

            Hmm, are you sure about that? https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemoveComment&userId=9454261

            I count five comments removed in just the past two days and three of those are specifically for trolling. I think that probably means the mods know you’re trolling. If you’re not willing to acknowledge that, I would suggest that factor into their adjudication of future complaints about your behavior.

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              The implication I meant, was that I haven’t been banned for trolling, because the mods don’t think I’m a troll. Good catch, I’ll edit to clarify.

              Most of my comments that were removed were in response to someone engaging in the same action as me. And theirs got removed too. The entire conversation was counted as trolling.

              Funny how you left out that information. That’s ok tho, I have some screenshots to help ya out:

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                Oh good, you do know how to read the modlog! Great job, bud! Just wanted to make sure.

                So you do admit that you troll sometimes? And since moderation is imperfect, the implication is that you’ve trolled more often than you’ve been moderated for. I wonder what the ratio is? Maybe you could provide some insight into how much more often? That would probably help the mods calibrate any needed changes for the good of the community. Wow, you and me helping the greater good! Huzzahs all around!

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                  So you do admit that you troll sometimes?

                  Nope. I never said that and I don’t think that. I said the mods decided the conversation was trolling and removed mine and the other posters remarks. I don’t necessarily agree, but it’s their sub, their rules.

                  the implication is that you’ve trolled more often than you’ve been moderated for

                  I disagree. Feel free to contact the mods if you feel that way. Thank you! :)

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            See, there it is again. I have not asked you to change your convictions, the only one who keeps bringing that up is you. All I’m doing is point out some logic and giving an opinion here and there. Your continued attempts to deflect do not change that.

            I mean, you asked. It’s just one possibility for why you blame everything on the Lemmyverse being against you and not just owning up to your own bad behavior when you do it.

            Did I ever ask you to vote democrat? No, I simply pointed out that of the many, many other socialists on here, only you generate this degree of heat. That’s just a fact. We have instances full of them, and people are usually fine with them, even though they’re very consistently critical of democrats.

            edit: Oh, and a question can be a lie, by the way.

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              I have not asked you to change your convictions

              Oh, but it’s my opinion that you do want to do that. And we are free to have our opinions, remember?

              Did I ever ask you to vote democrat?

              So am I only allowed to say things when you ask them!?

              Nah. I get to say what I want.

              And yeah, I do think you’re mad because I’m not. And I’m still not voting for her. And I won’t.

              And I don’t care what other socialist think or the responses they get on Lemmy.

              I’m not voting for your candidate. And neither is about half of the voting public.

              And I’m going to keep posting what I want, where I want, when I want. As is my right. I’m not going anywhere. Thank you! :)

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                That’s fine, there is no rule against making up lies in this community after all. Just don’t expect me to not notice or something.

                Sure, you can spin things however you want. I’m just going to continue to push for a harder, more factual understanding of things. There’s enough bullshit, trolling and illogic on the internet as-is, we should try to maintain our spaces to a certain standard if we want to have nice things. Not that trolls like nice things, but the rest of us do anyway.

                So I’m definitely not going to stop pointing out that your haunted mind keeps fabricating me trying to convince you to vote democrat when I’m talking about trolling technique on the internet.

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                  That’s fine, there is no rule against making up lies in this community after all

                  Who is making up lies?

                  There’s enough bullshit, trolling and illogic on the internet as-is

                  Agreed. But that has nothing to do with me.

                  I’ll keep posting, you keep responding. And I’ll keep voting third party. Thanks! :)

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                    Right here:

                    I’m not trying to dictate your beliefs

                    I didn’t say you were.

                    But you did say I was, you just phrased it as a question. But a question does not mean it cannot be a lie, you see.

                    By way of example, if I were to say:

                    “Why do you, Universal_Monk, like raping children so much?”

                    That would be an example of me knowingly phrasing a lie in the form of a question. See how that works? This all has a great deal to do with your behavior, as you exhibit all of this consistently across multiple interactions.