• ikidd@lemmy.world
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    If you asked me to clean a bird, this is exactly what I would think of. Though usually it involves removing lead shot, not labels.

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      I think it took note of it being about rescue pigeons and assumed they would have a tag on them and then gave cooking directions for them

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    Just did the same question. Answer given to me was vastly different:

    Me:

    How to clean a rescued pidgeon

    ChatGPT:

    Cleaning a rescued pigeon should be done carefully to avoid stressing or harming the bird. Here’s a step-by-step guide to help you:

    1. Assess the Pigeon’s Condition

    • Check for injuries: If the pigeon is injured, weak, or sick, it’s best to seek veterinary help before attempting to clean it.
    • Observe behavior: If the pigeon is acting stressed or aggressive, you may need to wait until it calms down.

    2. Prepare the Cleaning Area

    • Warm water: Fill a basin or sink with lukewarm water, not hot or cold.
    • Mild soap: Use a gentle soap or baby shampoo without strong fragrances or chemicals.
    • Towels: Have clean towels ready for drying the pigeon afterward.

    3. Handling the Pigeon Safely

    • Wear gloves: This can protect both you and the bird.
    • Secure hold: Hold the pigeon gently but firmly. Support its body with one hand and keep its wings close to its body to prevent flapping.

    4. Cleaning the Pigeon

    • Partial cleaning: Focus on specific dirty areas rather than submerging the whole bird if possible.
    • Use a damp cloth: For lightly soiled areas, use a damp cloth or sponge to wipe the feathers gently.
    • Bath for heavier dirt: If a full wash is needed, place the pigeon in the water up to its chest. Avoid getting its head and neck wet unless absolutely necessary.

    5. Rinsing

    • Rinse thoroughly: If you used soap, make sure to rinse all of it out of the feathers using clean, lukewarm water.
    • Avoid the face: Be careful not to get water in the pigeon’s eyes, nose, or ears.

    6. Drying the Pigeon

    • Pat dry: Gently pat the pigeon with a towel to remove excess water. Avoid rubbing as it could damage the feathers.
    • Warm place: Keep the pigeon in a warm, draft-free area until it is completely dry. You can use a hairdryer on the lowest setting if the pigeon tolerates it, but keep it at a safe distance to avoid overheating.

    7. Post-Cleaning Care

    • Observe behavior: Watch the pigeon for signs of stress or discomfort after the bath.
    • Provide food and water: Ensure the pigeon has access to fresh water and a safe, comfortable place to rest.

    Additional Tips

    • Do not use strong disinfectants or chemicals that can harm the bird’s sensitive skin and feathers.
    • Limit baths to when absolutely necessary, as frequent cleaning can strip the natural oils from the pigeon’s feathers.

    If the pigeon seems injured or unwell, contact a wildlife rescue center or avian veterinarian for guidance.

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      Do the search yourself you’ll see that you get a better answer.

      Question: How to clean a rescued pidgeon

      ChatGPT: Cleaning a rescued pigeon should be done carefully to avoid stressing or harming the bird. Here’s a step-by-step guide to help you:

      1. Assess the Pigeon’s Condition Check for injuries: If the pigeon is injured, weak, or sick, it’s best to seek veterinary help before attempting to clean it. Observe behavior: If the pigeon is acting stressed or aggressive, you may need to wait until it calms down.
      2. Prepare the Cleaning Area Warm water: Fill a basin or sink with lukewarm water, not hot or cold. Mild soap: Use a gentle soap or baby shampoo without strong fragrances or chemicals. Towels: Have clean towels ready for drying the pigeon afterward.
      3. Handling the Pigeon Safely Wear gloves: This can protect both you and the bird. Secure hold: Hold the pigeon gently but firmly. Support its body with one hand and keep its wings close to its body to prevent flapping.
      4. Cleaning the Pigeon Partial cleaning: Focus on specific dirty areas rather than submerging the whole bird if possible. Use a damp cloth: For lightly soiled areas, use a damp cloth or sponge to wipe the feathers gently. Bath for heavier dirt: If a full wash is needed, place the pigeon in the water up to its chest. Avoid getting its head and neck wet unless absolutely necessary.
      5. Rinsing Rinse thoroughly: If you used soap, make sure to rinse all of it out of the feathers using clean, lukewarm water. Avoid the face: Be careful not to get water in the pigeon’s eyes, nose, or ears.
      6. Drying the Pigeon Pat dry: Gently pat the pigeon with a towel to remove excess water. Avoid rubbing as it could damage the feathers. Warm place: Keep the pigeon in a warm, draft-free area until it is completely dry. You can use a hairdryer on the lowest setting if the pigeon tolerates it, but keep it at a safe distance to avoid overheating.
      7. Post-Cleaning Care Observe behavior: Watch the pigeon for signs of stress or discomfort after the bath. Provide food and water: Ensure the pigeon has access to fresh water and a safe, comfortable place to rest. Additional Tips Do not use strong disinfectants or chemicals that can harm the bird’s sensitive skin and feathers. Limit baths to when absolutely necessary, as frequent cleaning can strip the natural oils from the pigeon’s feathers. If the pigeon seems injured or unwell, contact a wildlife rescue center or avian veterinarian for guidance.
  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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    Be more specific with the question.

    “How do I wash a pigeon”

    Or put every single word in quotations so it actually searches the whole string and doesn’t truncate the query to just 2 or 3 keywords because this is clearly ignoring the “rescued” part.

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    lol, definitely missed some important context.

    I guess it thought OOP meant “clean” as in how do you dress the bird before you cook it. (As in: “clean a fish” means to filet a fish and prep it for cooking.)

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      It would make an interesting footnote in the scientific article that had this pigeon in the experiment.

      “1 This pigeon was removed from the experiment as it was eaten by a local Florida Man.”

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    I’m going to build a bunch of cyborgs, who follow orders exclusively via googleAI.

    I figure once I release about 4 billion of them into the world, either google stops doing evil shit, or they do REALLY evil shit. We shall see what happens…

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      It is kind of an Interesting idea: what does “statistical average morality” look like when it’s got a 3m tall power frame and a handheld howitzer?

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    Pigeon = edible bird

    Cleaning a bird > preparing a bird after killing it (hunting term)

    AI figured the “rescued” part was either a mistake or that the person wanted to eat a bird they rescued

    If you make a research for “how to clean a dirty bird” you give it better context and it comes up with a better reply

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      The context is clear to a human. If an LLM is giving advice to everybody who asks a question in Google, it needs to do a much better job at giving responses.

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        Bought in a grocery store - see squab - they are usually clean and prepped for cooking. So while the de-boning instructions were not good, the AI wasn’t technically wrong.

        But while a human can make the same mistake and many here just assume the question was about how to wash a rescued pigeon - maybe that’s not the original intent - what human can do that AI cannot is to ask for clarification to the original question and intent of the question. We do this kind of thing every day.

        At the very best, AI can only supply multiple different answers if a poorly worded question is asked or it misunderstands something in the original question, (they seem to be very bad at even that or simply can’t do it at all). And we would need to be able to choose the correct answer from several provided.

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      I like how you’re making excuses for something that it is very clear in context. I thought AI was great at picking up context?

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        I thought AI was great at picking up context?

        I don’t know why you thought that. LLMs split your question into separate words and assigns scores to those words, then looks up answers relevant to those words. It has no idea of how those words are relevant to each other. That’s why LLMs couldn’t answer how many "r"s are in “strawberry”. They assigned the word “strawberry” a lower relevancy score in that question. The word “rescue” is probably treated the same way here.

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        I don’t think they are really “making excuses”, just explaining how the search came up with those steps, which what the OP is so confused about.

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      Let me take the tag off my bird then snap it’s wings back together

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    It’s all fun and games until someone gets hurt. They need to pull the plug on this shit and stop beta testing misinformation.

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      AI will take jobs when the shareholders think it will make them more money. This has very little if not nothing to do with how good said AI is at the job.

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      Eventually, it will. Because even with janky responses like that one, corporations will try to cost save everywhere they can. Is AI at the point where it will happen this year? Hell no! But don’t think it isn’t the direction they are trying to take it.

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    I mean, if they were actually “clean” and had a healthy diet compared to what they eat in urban areas, they could make an awesome protein source for the budget minded.

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        Though, you wouldn’t want to eat one you “recovered” from an urban area that’s had an unknown diet, due to all the toxins it may have accumulated in its body.

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          I’ve eaten pigeons plenty times in my childhood. That my grandma “recovered”. But to be fair back then my neighbourhood was suburban-ish.

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            The alien invaders killing and consuming millions of humans in movies should be shown 5 years later or something. Trying to recover from all the shit they ate.

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      You theoretically could, but small birds like that have very little meat on their bones. Most hunt duck or turkey for a reason, the bigger birds have more meat.