President-elect Donald Trump on Friday confirmed that Republicans will work together to ditch Daylight Saving Time, the practice of changing the clocks by an hour twice a year.

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    But the time indicates your relative position in the Earth’s rotation. The number 13 in reference to the rotational cycle means the sun in the sky is a particular number of degrees away from your position on the earth and it only that particular value in that one geographic slice of the planet. You can personally choose to use UTC/GMT for yourself if that’s what you want to do, and meeting invites you send and receive will all correct accordingly for the configured time zone.

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      That holds true outside of the fact that it changes daily due to our axis orbit and our position on earth. If we actually went by it, our clocks would have to change constantly as well. So if we are going to ignore it by not changing the clocks, why wouldn’t we just ignore it all together. We are okay with saying the sun sets at 4:30… Or 7:30… Or maybe it only sets for 2 hours a night if you are north/south enough… So why bother trying to coorelate that?

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        Time zones weren’t established to adjust for north/south variances, they’re for east/west. And we don’t adjust the clocks to make sunrise and sunset fall on consistent time of day throughout the year. They’re so that we can reliably account for what the local time is somewhere other than where we are (in the USA they were created for cross-continental railroads to publish train schedules). We already have GMT/UTC and every other time zone is defined relative to that, so why don’t you just personally use that in all your own devices and communications already? Nothing but you can prevent you from doing so.

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          Your last comment said it does adjust for the sun, now this one says it doesn’t.

          Your argument is “But I don’t like change, so I don’t want to change to having no changes”

          Why don’t I just use a system the rest of U.S. doesn’t use? Because when I turn on the TV, pick up a paper, or sit down at computer, it will always be different.

          What kind of thought process is that. Instead we’ll drive south-east and wind up with the time going backwards, north-west and the time going forward and everyone will wonder what braindead fool couldn’t draw a vertical line. And then remember, it’s because a lot of people thought it was a terrible idea from the start, so many states/countries bent those lines.

          Id call it a sunk cost.

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            No, my argument is that time zones are a formalization of what we observe in physical reality: that different parts of the planet are experience a different phase of the Earth’s rotation through direct sunlight in at any given moment. They can’t ever be perfect, so we all have to agree to a best approximation, and some communities decide for themselves that they don’t want to have a a dividing line through the middle of their city, and that’s fine because the whole system is meant for co-ordinating over long distances.

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              Which brings us back to the premise, they are just numbers. So what does it matter that the sun comes up at one number or another when they are already dynamic. And co-ordination over long distances would be perfect every time with a static time for the entire planet. As time is relative to us, why not make it static.

              Hell we all just made up that it’s 2024. So every time the clock spins round we adjust until we hit 2025, but time didn’t start 2024 year ago, we just set it at a static point so there was no confusion. Imagine if you drove to work and it was 1994 there, and then 2027 when you flew home to see your parents. It would be nuts.

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                As time is relative to us, why not make it static.

                Because we already have, when the time zones were created. All time zones are just offsets to UTC/GMT. And as you’ve observed, society at large wants to use a localized offset because it just feels natural to do so.

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                    Greenwich, now you go and bring ole Henry VIII into this… Surely that’ll help

                    Well if we’re all going to be in one time zone, then one has to be designated as the True Earth Time, and the world’s governments.have already decided which one it is.

                    Haha. Hope your having a good day

                    Likewise. 🍻