• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    What a bunch of slave-owners thought about guns hundreds of years ago is not really relevant to today.

    And if you’re going to attack someone for thinking people should be armed for the wrong reason, maybe you should find better targets.

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      8 hours ago

      Whoa, I’m not attacking you. I have a difference in opinion as to why people should be armed. Not saying that one does not have a right to self defense, just that i put stock in the need to collectively hold the government accountable and fight tyranny

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        8 hours ago

        And you can see why, from what I already wrote, that is not likely to work unless the majority is on your side. And the military.

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          7 hours ago

          The military has had a pretty lousy track record against gorilla warfare from much smaller, worse armed groups who, by the width of an ocean were unable to affect logistical lines, the means to project warfare, or the families of our soldiers. A Revolution within would be much worse.

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            7 hours ago

            How many innocent people died in those wars? It’s not very nice of you to be willing to put their lives on the line like that.

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              7 hours ago

              Oh? Now it’s a discussion about who should be sacrificed and for what. Freedom always has a cost. I never removed myself from the possibility. But right now, the royal “we”, seem to be sacrificing the minority, the different, the poor, the non christian and it gets worse every day. Freedoms are slipping, corporations get stronger, and standards of living and hope for the future fades. This will only accelerate. Arguing to arm oneself for personal protection but not collective action will doom all, but the chosen, to be picked off one by one.

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                  6 hours ago

                  When it’s needed. I don’t see a path that prevents tyranny or revolution, but that doesn’t mean there is none. You say that people should arm themselves, and i agree, the main difference being what we see as the threat i guess. But I take inspiration from the Black Panthers. I believe they were right and righteous in their actions, no matter what was taught in schools. And you know they were effective, because the state conspired against them and they got the NRA TO ARGUE FOR MORE RESTRICTIVE GUN LAWS because they have a certain power dynamic they want to uphold.

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                    6 hours ago

                    I don’t remember the Black Panthers starting a guerilla war like what you’re advocating for.

                    When is this guerilla war going to be “needed?”