They quickly accelerated their way out.

Tech support workers who may or may not speak English as a second language or with a strong accent can sometimes be of actual help and sometimes not, much like people with possibly more familiar accents can. A call center AI has never been anywhere close to solving a problem I’ve had.

You’re no less fucked but instead of a human being getting underpaid for the trouble, a shitty tech corporation is overpaid.

A tool uses an LLM, the LLM uses a tool. What a beautiful ouroboros.

Someone ask if those fucks wanna see how much of the modern world was actually built by China? Wanna let them run it instead?

Yea, what if the master owns a wrecking ball, a bulldozer, a heavy duty excavator and a bunch of dynamite?

Yes, this is a metaphor for C programming, how did you know?

You’re both incorrect. I am the least fascist programmer and I’m here to tell you programming is inherently fascist.

The simultaneous problem and benefit of the stubstack thread is that a good chunk of the best posts of this community are contained within them.

I think you’re deliberately setting up for this response, so: “more like human sole”.

Refreshing. An online community that wears its intentions on its sleeve.

Absolutely. Take the reverence for “SysV” init* to the point where the init system has all but eclipsed the AT&T Unix release as the primary meaning of “System V”. The BSDs (at least the Net/Open branch, not sure about FreeBSD) adopted a simplified BSD init/rc model ages ago and Solaris switched to systemd-esque SMF with little uproar. Personally I even prefer SMF over its Linux equivalents, despite the cumbersome XML configuration.

I somewhat understand the terminalchud mindset, a longing for a supposed simpler time where a nerd could keep a holistic grasp of one’s computing system in their head. Combine that with the tech industry’s pervasive male chauvinism and dogmatic adherence to a law of “simplify and reduce weight” (usually a useful rule of thumb) and you end up with terrible social circles making bad software believing they’re great on both fronts.

* Rather, the Linux implementation of the concept

make it a Python script that does all the hard bits with a system call to bash

Oh god, please no. I have PTSD from 50-line Python scripts by anti-bash fundamentalists full of os.system, subprocess.run and/or subprocess.call that could have just been 15-line bourne shell scripts.

If you’re gluing programs together, shell scripts are often the best way to do it. If you’re not gluing programs together, do you even Unix? If you want to be fundie about it, obey shellcheck.

It sucks that bash is such a footgun. Perl was supposed to fix a lot of that, but now everyone hates it, because it also lets people to do clever and subtly incorrect things, which have then become quasi-idiomatic. Mom, can we have a sensible human-computer interface?

“Funny” is one way to put it.

I’m not even surprised. It’s the kids who are wrong etc.

If it’s not too rude to ask, @dgerard, can you edit the verb “photoshop” to start with a lowercase p to make it just a tiny bit more genericized?

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