“Diplomacy dies”

What diplomacy has there been for the past 3 years of war?

We are workers as a class, not consumers, we work way more than the wealthy whereas they consume more. Our power resides in labor organising, unionisation, and mutual aid, not in consumption.

Neither of those were consumer boycotts though

Bottom 60% of earners in the US represent less than 25% of total consumption. The power is in labor and labor only, there’s a reason why we have plenty of historical examples of successful labor movements, not so much of consumer movements.

“Espouses but fails to uphold” sounds more like negligence to me. Negligence would be allowing fascism through inaction (like democrat administration). But the US does far worse than that (funding genocide and propping up fascism elsewhere)

ALL third-party candidates combined for less than 2% of total votes

So finally you admit it’s not third party voters to blame for Trump?

Dingdingding, right answer here!

Sadly I’m afraid Hexbear doesn’t get the Xi-bux it rightly deserves, it’s even blocked by the great Chinese firewall (thought the reasons aren’t clear). I wish the left was as well funded as people claim :(

Nah, hexbear admins and users were pretty clear and unanimous from minute 1 that they’d rather have that money spent in mutual aid (go visit c/mutual_aid in Hexbear if you’re interested) than in giving money to a cyberlandlord.

Fish that bites its own tail. North Korea is weird as it is because of the isolation imposed on it after the country was quite literally levelled by US bombings. That’s the historical and materialist events that gave rise to “juche” ideology in the way North Korea understands it now. I think you’d be pretty scared of outsiders if your country had been as close to literally entirely destroyed as it gets by foreign bombing, and if when you tried to rebuild your economy you had been subjected to an almost complete economic blockade.

This doesn’t seem to mirror my experiences, is the DNC actually pushing a position of not worrying about the situation?

Biden had immunity to do literally anything to prevent the rise of fascism. What he did: nothing.

Lol, if you want to try and move the goalposts from my “murdered Poles”

No, my claim is that you’re equating deported with murdered when you quote said book talking about “hundreds of thousands of murders”, not that murdered after deportation don’t count.

Yet again you fail to provide an alternative to the military occupation of Eastern Poland by the Soviet Union. The only possible alternative was Nazi occupation. I’m not trying to justify Katyn, I’m saying that the invasion itself was justified and that’s proven by the fact that you cannot even theoretically come up with a better alternative with 80 years of hindsight.

Imagine how we would look at the US if they had decided it was more profitable to just team up with the nazis instead

I don’t have to imagine, the US not only teamed up with but propped up fascism all over the globe. I’m Spanish myself, the Franco dictatorship was legitimised by the USA for its entire existence, but I could bring up Suharto in Indonesia, Pinochet in Chile, or an endless list of fascists supported by the USA. Invading eastern Poland and preventing it from being invaded by Nazis isn’t “teaming up with the Nazis”, I’m sorry that you can’t see beyond cold-war propaganda.

Yeah no, I’m not a military enjoyer in general, so idk what destroyer means or what’s the origin, I meant it more as a wordplay. But thanks for the clarification!

The fact that she deserves it doesn’t imply things will get better after her getting fired, it just implies she’s a terrorist working for terrorists. Like, the name of the ship category you’re commanding is “Destroyer”

It most certainly includes direct casualty numbers as well

Good, then we both agree the source doesn’t support the “hundreds of thousands murdered in Poland” claim.

For the last time: I have asked at this point in 4 different occasions what was the desirable alternative to a Soviet military occupation of eastern Poland after the Polish, English and French rejection of a mutual defense agreement with the USSR.

The fact that you fail to provide an answer after being clearly prompted 4 different times to give one, is enough evidence to me that you simply don’t have one. I will then state the obvious: the Soviet military occupation of Eastern Poland likely prevented hundreds of thousands of Jews, Poles, Roma and other ethnicities from being genocided by the OTHERWISE INEVITABLE Nazi invasion.

You really, really cannot imagine not having to do

No, I really cannot pretend knowing more about defeating fascism in Europe that the nation which ultimately defeated fascism, at the IMMENSE cost of 25 million lives in the struggle against Nazism. It’s easy to go with our hindsight and categorise the oppression of bourgeois and nationalist elements of Poland as unnecessary and “barbaric”. But you known what, I’m not Polish, I’m Spanish. I’m from the country where the communists did not go far enough, and the result was losing a preventable civil war against fascists which murdered hundreds of thousands of innocents, and the 4 decades of fascism that followed. So, no, my claim is NOT that I know more about fighting fascism than those who actually defeated it.

even though everyone knows that’s not true

Source: it is known

There are relatively few comments in the thread talking about Russia at all, and calling the Euromaidan a US coup is not Russia apologism, it’s literally discussion about US+Ukraine.

You can’t see a post about the two-sidedness of US policy without invoking the Russians.

it’s clear they wanted to keep him [Hitler] on a leash and have him serve as a first line of defense

This is basically the thing I’m arguing. The Soviet Union was never an expansionist project in the military sense (they wanted to spread the revolution abroad, such as by assisting the Republicans in Spain and giving weapons to the Vietnamese in their anti-imperialist struggle), never projecting their military force outwards except as a response to serious provoking by third party foreign actors (such as in the case of the funding and arming in Afghanistan of radical theocratic militias by the US).

The fact that all of these western leaders talk of the USSR using the Molotov-Ribbentrop as an “odious but necessary defensive measure”, proves to me that they understood that the USSR wasn’t something they needed to be militarily defended of by a weaponized Germany acting as a buffer, hence that can’t be understood as Germany’s role in the situation in my opinion.

Whataboutism? This post is about the US and Ukraine, not about Russia

I did a little writeup brainstorm the other day, om which I reached the same conclusion, that “Russo/Sino-Tankieism” is to Lemmy what “Judeo-Bolshevism” was to Nazi Germany. I’m glad to see you’re reading the words out of my mind