• muculent@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    When we grew up wondering how we would address overpopulation, impoverishment wasn’t something we had in mind.

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      28 days ago

      If it gets bad enough, birth rates will go up. Developed countries typically have lower birth rates than undeveloped countries.

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        28 days ago

        Developed countries typically have lower birth rates than undeveloped countries.

        That is more to do with education and women’s liberation (including contraception), than finances. Which I suspect is still the predominant reason that birth rates are dropping, with finances just a secondary reason.

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        28 days ago

        Seems like a side effect of unchecked greed instead. If it were properly designed people would be able to afford enough bread and circuses to stay complacent

  • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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    29 days ago

    Boomers: have more kids! we need the workforce

    Boomers: all those taxes that made our families possible - nah fuck that. Keep the minimum wage locked for 15 years.

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    28 days ago

    This is concerning. Especially people telling poor people to not have kids. Are we just gonna take it and accept that the joy of being a parent and having children should only be a right bestowed on the wealthy? Poor people are stuck in a financial fuck loop that they will never escape, having children is the only joy some people will experience in this fucked up system

    Edit: it’s crazy how many people have been brainwashed into accepting this roundabout eugenics and telling poor people they aren’t entitled to children

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      28 days ago

      I’m going to counter with 2 distilled, oversimplified thoughts:

      Happiness is a choice; most people can find a way to be happy in their lives with what they have.

      People shouldn’t have children mainly to experience joy, be complete, or just because. That’s fucked up. I know people will fluff out a number of reasons if challenged, but I think you nailed it, and I think more than a few people have kids just to have kids.

  • Fleppensteyn@feddit.nl
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    29 days ago

    Many people my age have terrible boomer parents who just had kids because “that’s just what you do”. They didn’t even consider you could just not make babies.

    Maybe we just think more for ourselves than the older generation.

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      29 days ago

      Right??? My siblings have an 18 year span, I’ll be 38 when the youngest graduates highschool. I feel like I already have kids, I’m doing so much emotional and financial support for these ones

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    29 days ago

    Also, *gestures wildly around themself* look at the state the world is in. Which sane person would want to bring a child into this fucked up world?

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      29 days ago

      Well, you and similar people know the world is fucked up, but there’s a lot more people out there swimming in the ignorance of simply believing everything is fine or that the people raising problems are catastrophising and that everything will somehow work out.

      Those people will keep having kids even if basically every sign pointed to the certainty of that kid’s life ending early during some kind of traumatic existential struggle.

      There’s just a percentage of society who simply don’t put in much thought beyond their immediate existence and future. That’s almost definitely bad in the grand scheme of things, but I guess on the flip side, they potentially live happier lives in ignorance before getting blipped out of existence.

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        29 days ago

        I mean, 50% of humanity doesn’t have an inner monologue- they’re essentially just moving from one impulse to another.

        Half of everyone. There’s no chance for this species without radical change.

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          xkcd - Idiocracy

          For god’s sake – people who don’t hear their own voice in their own head are “just moving from one impulse to another”? People require an inner monologue, as opposed to seeing things in their imagination or what have you, in order to be capable of conscious thought? Are we seriously at the point where we’re saying “anyone who doesn’t experience the world the same way I do is no better than an animal”?