Cant imagine making 30 k a year and having to pay even 1600 in taxes. This is saying it will increase that much.

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        The population has been made isolated at the community level. There are very few local groups doing any reaction at all to this.

        And violent reactions which are successful are a group action; it’s very seldom an individual, in any era of history, changed the politics by themselves.

        And as long as there are no impromptu gatherings of significant frequency, there will be very little violence.

        The internet is not a replacement for community driven change which powers all social and political movements, peaceful or not.

        The turning point, if there is one, will be lots of local meetings by the thousands , and not until then. No matter how violent or passive the individuals be

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          Americans won’t form violent groups because they’re trapped in the mind prison of nonviolence. They think violence is wrong.

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            There is still a lot of violent potential in all this population, it just needs to be nurtured by a working grassroots movement. And that is broken. Just like you can drive a car with a working motor, that has a busted axle; you cannot lead violent people to do things if there is no place to hook up or meet in person.

            This applies to the people who oppose you as much as you, and I mean anyone. So, the current situation is sort of a stabilizing force at the moment

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            It’s because it IS wrong. Animals resort to violence when they don’t get their way.

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        Maybe it’s because we’re not animals. Had half of this country been educated enough to see what was coming- we wouldn’t be in this mess. Violence will only make it worse.

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              In a game theory situation, One actor that obeys laws vs. another that doesn’t tends to eliminate the one that does obeys laws.

              so even hypothetically, we can’t take the high road as it leads to a cliff.

              and don’t be so naive to think the world peace and order we enjoy wasn’t paid for with blood of our ancestors. The rules you hold dearly now didn’t protect your ancestors when they sought to do what’s right.

              Violence is the hallmark of peace.

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          Who’s not an animal? Because humans are definitely classified as animals. We’re definitely not plants.

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            Animals as in- barbaric knuckle-dragging cavemen than can’t handle negativity and adversity without harming others.

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              You’re virtue signaling and need to do some deep searching and a review of human history. Be better.

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                Yeah… being nonviolent absolutely is a virtue. A pretty simple one at that. So I’m hoping the signal is loud and clear. And human history? Really? We used to use the practice of trepanning to release evil spirits from one’s head. Doctors once prescribed cigarettes to patients. History is a bad example to use to justify the present.

                And lastly, you have the nerve to tell me to be better while you try and justify acts of violence?

                Be better indeed- and evolve while you’re at it.