With those tipping screens now seemingly everywhere, Americans think that the practice has “gotten out of control,” according to a new survey.
At least 63 percent of US residents now having a negative view of tipping, up from 59 percent last year, according to Bankrate, a financial publisher and comparison service.
Yet, the number of Americans who have gotten used to tipping has gone up since the COVID-19 pandemic, when it slipped. There have not been significant declines in tips for service providers, the survey noted, particularly for hairdressers and restaurant servers.
I personally don’t even tip anymore.
Tip for fellow Americans: tip with cash because owners frequently steal digital tips. Inb4 “that’s illegal!” Yup, wage theft is the biggest type of theft.
I’ll tip on my card so everyone pays for their share fairly.
Why are we never tough on this crime?
The capital class sees it as impossible to prosecute because the violence is alienated and the working class is seen as less than human.
So… don’t participate? This seems like a victimless crime unless you’re being forced to tip.
There’s a bit to unpack here. The fact that you characterize it as a “crime” at all implies that something wrong is being done in the first place. No, it’s not a crime to not tip. However, someone is being negatively impacted when you don’t.
Does the system suck? Yes, it sucks. It sucks the moon right out of the sky, but someone is being hurt by you not tipping, and that person is essentially a minimum wage worker that depends on those tips to survive. Until that system changes, you are the asshole for not tipping when the service is acceptable to you.
The someones in question, namely the wait staff, are often the biggest defenders of tipping culture in my experience. They don’t WANT a higher base wage to happen. Without tipping they’d make less money and the career wouldn’t be viable for adults. Boo hooo.
So when it comes to asshole accusations…eh. That’s your opinion. Nobody made them choose that career. You’re being protectionist and I’d reject that shaming attempt if I didn’t still tip a little.
I didn’t seek out being a cop, a priest, a door knocking scammer either. I think tipping is gross and I’d rather be homeless than prey on people and then defend my preying on people because it pays the bills. I lived a decade impoverished. Even at my most desperate I never turned to predatory careers. It’s a choice.
I tip a flat 5 bux. Not a percentage. For someone I interact with for 10 minutes I think it’s reasonable. I hope they split it with the cook staff. If it’s acceptable for a delivery driver who does work harder and has higher vehicle maintenance demands, then it’s fine in a restaurant too.
Spoken like someone who has never been to a country where tipping culture doesn’t exist. The service industry works just fine when businesses are required to pay staff a living wage instead of pushing that expense on to the customer. You level the blame at the wait staff for pushing this culture, but that’s simply not the case.
I know it works and I’ve been overseas, you missed my point, but I where it could be missed I’ll fix that. The waiters/waitresses in North America disagree with you and are part of what holds us back.
What straw man am I punching in this scenario?
It was too harsh I saw where you could draw the wrong impression afterwards. That’s retracted now sorry.
Um… what?
Talk about devide and conquer tactics.
Just avoid tipping places, and the market will sort itself out
And before you have a melt down, just remember that food and drink out where tipping is required is the definition of discretionary spending, you will be fine.
Just avoid tipping places
Part of the problem is that fucking everything is starting to ask for a tip.
If worker is not paid, tipped min wage, then don’t tip.
If workers is laid tipped min wages then don’t go there. Ie sit down restaurants in the us
Oh, that’s the thing that’s out of control in America currently. I’m glad someone’s focusing on what’s important.
Everyone knows we’re only allowed to think and talk about Trump right now, right?
Daddies getting a divorce, that’s a YOU problem boy
Who are you talking to
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It needs to be outlawed for real
- the millions who visit.
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I tip when there is actual service. Deliver my pizza so I don’t have to drive out to get it? Sure, I’ll tip. Making sure I have enough napkins and my coffee is kept topped up? Absolutely there’s a tip. Making the food and handing it to me at the counter? That’s not service, that’s just giving me what I paid for, so no tip.
It would be nice if tipping went away for the service jobs at well and they were paid a proper wage, but that isn’t happening any time soon. Long term changes can’t sacrifice short term needs to the point where there is no long term left to change, and waiters need to eat.
Are you able to give me better or worse service in the future. Tip.
Otherwise, no tip.
I hope you don’t ever go out for food/drinks if that’s your mindset.
Just stop tipping?
Unfortunately tipping in North America is a wage subsidy paid by patrons. Employers can get away with paying employees less as there is an expectation that the public will supplement the difference. It wouldn’t be enough to just stop tipping, a change to employment practices is necessary.
I think if everybody stopped tipping, a change in employment practices would soon follow, because all those people working consumer subsidized wages would quit.
When the only choice a person has is a little money vs. no money, they’re usually forced to choose the former.
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Have never worked a job that earned me tips, but it seems to me that everyone who holds a full time job should not be required to rely on kindness of strangers for their livelyhood.
Regulations should be such that they mandate all employers to pay a liviable wage.
If that causes places to shutdown, let them greedy bastards shutdown. The market will correct itself.
Continuing as it is today is bad for everyone but the employers and capitalists.
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If that’s bad for your business, can you really call yourself a capitalist?
For short term gain? Hells yes.
It’s not kindness anymore. It’s peer pressure. That’s why people hate it. If it was true kindness then it would be totally private: i.e. you’d decide whether or not to tip the next day when you’re at home alone, with no one watching.
And there’s the crux, right? It’s not a kindness, and it never could be a kindness because that’s their actual wages. It isnt peer pressure, it is a conscious understanding that the person you are tipping is literally counting on that tip to pay their bills. You’re paying them because their boss won’t, and that is rightfully starting to piss people off.
Who’s forcing them to?
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Nearly half? Are the rest just not paying attention?
At this point I’ve stopped tipping. However I don’t like random numbers so when I checkout at restaurants I round to the nearest $5. So if my meal was $32.45 I’ll tip $2.55.
For me it’s a fun math game and the percentage for the tip is low.
That’s like an 8% tip.
Yeah anything less than 15% is considered low here.
That’s how it works at restaurants and cafés outside of the USA, or at least how it used to work.
Outside the USA, when the bill is paid with cash, the customer will keep any notes from the change given and the coins are left on the table, it’s not much, but a token show of appreciation.
Now that cash is rarely used, tips are pretty much never given unless it’s something unusual, like a work function or something else where the staff have a little more to concentrate on than they normally would.
I am not American.
When I first dined in US restaurant, I was flabbergasted with the fact that the cashier pulled out a tablet and already have five buttons ready to be tapped - 12%, 15%, 18%, CUSTOM TIP.
That no tip button was below the four prominent buttons.
No, I have never seen this in Japan, China, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore and of course Indonesia where I live.
Same in Canada. Is that meal (like, a burger with fries lol) really 35$? Nah, add 15% for taxes, and at least another 15% for tips. But be warned, at 15% they might just throw it in your face. And don’t you dare leave under 2$ on that 20$ beer, do you think that botte got open by itself?
Dont they get paid minimum wage in Canada tho? I don’t get it
People can’t handle the social pressure from the service workers and their owners
