I wanted to buy something second-hand. Unfortunately, Facebook Marketplace is the shit where I live. So I thought I could quickly register, contact the seller, and delete my account afterwards.
However, I refuse to participate in this insanity. Video selfie my ass, Facebook.
“We, a company that has allowed AI generated propaganda to run rampant and destabilize global politics, need to make sure you are a real person so you must provide us with a video proving you are real that we totally wont use for AI and facial recognition purposes.”
I 100% trust this, Zuckerberg is fine upstanding man
Yup. I can attest that he’s never said about his users, “dumb fucks trust me”
To confirm your identity…
Yeah, bullshit. This is to help train their facial recognition AI.
I mean, it’s a bit of both.
I don’t think they care if you’re real anymore
They care quite a bit.
Bots and spammers make for miserable revenue generators. If you don’t distinguish your marks from your players, there’s no way to make money at the poker table.
I would agree with this if Zuck hadn’t been in the news recently talking about how Meta is desperately filling their userbase with bots, on purpose
Their point still stands - the bots need to know who to target to generate revenue, otherwise they waste your money.
I would agree with this and in fact I do
~ Mitch Hedberg
Can’t really be a bit of both because they can’t confirm shit if they don’t know what you look like in the first place. It could be to confirm that you are human (and maybe that you don’t already have an account) but they can’t confirm your “identity”.
and if they find or know a way to sell that with the other data colleted from you, they will proudly do it
It’s deff KYC bullshit first and fore most. Training data is a cherry
Kyc requirements are for banks
this is not a kyc requirement imposed on facebook based on laws, but by facebook based on their ToS.
Yeah banks and other financial institutions are elegally madated to do it.
Social media does it for “fun”
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook. Now being absent on that platform and others is seen as suspicious. I got a buddy who couldn’t complete a job application because Facebook was a mandatory field in the electronic form. The border Gestapo and the State Department require your socials for visa applications. A friend told me that she wouldn’t date a guy without socials because she browses them as a kind of background check.
Fuck Meta.
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook.
The same people who two decades ago would have look at you sideways for using internet to talk with strangers. These idiots always conform to what is popular.
Same, I always assume the worst with big companies and/or data.
They were always scummy.
Never gave my name or info, never been on social platforms unless there was a good reason to be on them.That’s a generational thing. 99% of my friends and people of my age I know have never had Facebook.
Instagram, however…Too old or too young?
Too young. Most facebook users are actually boomers nowadays.
Apparently you’re a modern horror story.
Most of those are indeed bullshit since authorities have better platforms and businesses don’t need to know your private info.
But women doing background checks to see what kind of men they are dating on the only platforms they have access to is just security. You can even leave your accounts info fully locked except for friends.
No, it’s quite healthy to each having their private account they don’t share with their partner. Guess what the reverse is.
Huh
Edit: apparently I’ve angered people by not knowing what this means. It sounds like multiple levels of sarcasm but whatever
I don’t follow either. It sounds like they’re talking about couples making joint Facebook accounts, which is a complete non-sequitur from all the comments before it.
But I might be wrong, as it seems a lot of people understand something that we’re missing. Would anyone that understands this better mind giving some clarification?
Youtube also does this
Video selfie my ass
That probably won’t work, since they expect your face. Worth a try, though.
just do a face swap thingy
I quit facebook 10 years ago. I am 67. If this old fart can quit so can you.
Don’t make it easier for the american fascist government to identify you even further on Facebook.
I am now, and will forever remain, a child of the old internet.
When your username was all that other people knew about you, and you didnt even like them having that for anonymity reasons, lol.
I continue to be baffled about how people on the internet went from “Don’t tell anyone, anything about you!” to "Hi My name is Dan Rutherford, I like at 5849 Blasse Rd, in Tarry Birch,Kenfucky. Heres a picture of myself, my wife, my children, and a list of everything expensive I have in the house. Also my childs bedroom window wont lock. Anyway, we’re going on a 3 week european vacation now! Expect hourly updates!
PS: Heres my birthday, and my childhood elementary school, where I was born, and the name of my childhood dog. In case anyone needs to answer my security questions"
Fb is nothing more than promoting right wing propaganda.
I got this on one of my joke accounts years ago.
I googled “3d face generator”, clicked on the first website, and slapped in an image of trump. Then I just rotated the 3d model following whatever the instructions were, and it worked lol
which means a bot could also easily pass the test, even though they claim it’s for checking you are not a bot
Discord asks your phone number for logging in from different locations when you already have TOTP 2FA and they still try to gaslight knowing your phone number is for your “security”
Let them continue filling the site with bots. Dont use that garbage.
These verification systems have already been defeated with locally-run AI models. This is now only a barrier to humans.
also helps feed their mass surveillance
Zucky needs your image so he can share with with Homeland, in case you visit too many liberal pages.
This is the reason i haven’t delete my facebook, my pre-massively-enshittified account doesn’t need to go through any of this shit.
It’s funny because I created an IG a year or so ago and I don’t recall it asking these questions.
Edit: don’t ask me questions that require logging in as I don’t know my password
Ig and fb is kinda separated iirc, even when it all fall under Meta. So does Thread.
I recently deleted it since my friends finally decided to move on from messenger to… Instagram.
Progress is progress right? Anyway I’m not planning on ever using the marketplace so hopefully I will never need an account again.
that’s not progress, it is trend. in zero ways it is better.
it’s progress in the way that it’s not on a dead platform anymore and I need one less social media account
I cant comment on dead platform, but did you register on instagram for this reason, or was that an old account? in the former case you don’t have one less accounts. but then one could also argue whether deleting one meta service account and registering another makes a difference
Yeah, I regret deleting my old account now. I never used it except for marketplace. Now I’m realizing Craigslist is pretty much dead in comparison
I made an account over decade ago, never really used it even back then because I was suspicious even then. Then i tried logging in years after that and they demanded passport or some other identification to even let me log in.
So i sent them a picture i drew myself, i would post it here but i dont think i have the file anymore. It was basically like a mockup passport with picture of a clown and a stamp with picture of middle finger. I hoped they would just ban my account or something since that is about best I can hope. They would never abide by gdpr request and even if they say they did there is no way to know if they actually did.
I’m in the same boat. I have leftover PC parts to offload and Craigslist is shit and the Nextdoor app doesn’t have as much reach from what I can see.
I don’t regret deleting mine. I don’t need any of that shit, fuck ’em.
Fuck that shit.
Literally over ten years ago, they wanted a photo of my government ID.
Haven’t had an account since
Literally over ten years ago, they wanted a photo of my government ID
I sent in a fake one, they accepted it.
same happened with me then a few other friends which made it easier to convince them to leave Facebook
I get it. They want to combat bots and potentially even detect if a person is old enough to use the platform. However Facebook has eroded absolutely any trust that there’s no way I’d give them this. Not that I use Facebook anyway.
There’s no way they want to combat bots. You report bot content and they’re like “nah, this doesn’t go against our community guidelines” all the fucking time.
I’d kind of think it would be in their interest to, not because they give a shit about what their end users think, but what their customers (advertisers) think. I’d imagine that advertisers are paying x amount to reach real humans that can spend money, so if it turns out that businesses are paying to advertise to bots then I can’t see them being too happy about that. Not unless they’re upfront with businesses and they tell them that x% of their user base is bots and they’ll only charge them to advertise to real people.
I honestly don’t even think advertisers give a shit anymore. If people keep buying what they’re pushing, all they see is dollar signs. If anything, the whole “advertiser doesn’t like this” thing is just some sort of scapegoat.
Like, look at YouTube - you’re telling me that somehow the company pushing some products that nobody gives a fuck about is horribly offended because a guy in a video said “Shitfuck McPussyCock” three seconds in; but they have no issue with the hatred, misinformation spreading, and general stupidity of people like Tim Poole, Ben Shapiro, Crowder, and that other dipshit with the beard and glasses (whose name I have actually thankfully forgotten)?
What do you expect from a company that removed independent fact-checkers, wanted to add AI profiles as users, amongst other things? I think they relish bots and the engagement they bring to the platform, completely blind-sided by how bad it looks for them long-term.
I don’t even think they care about image. That was early-game for them. Now they’ve scooped so much data on people that they could probably close Facebook and still manage to track people based on metadata and shadow profiles.
its not even about it, probably more data to tie to you and sell to data brokers, facebook feed most of the time wont even prioritize to show your friends posts instead will show posts from pages that paid Facebook to advertise, its literally no longer what it used to be for a few years already and probably why they were all in for having a separate messenger app for Facebook so those who find more convenient not to quit will just keep using it to maintain contact with people through it while keeping their accounts
Zuckerborg is literally promoting bot “friends”
The same thing happened to me recently. I used my friend’s phone to play this video in front of the camera, and it worked.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-21/video-selfie-verification-process-for-account/104499702