• TommySoda@lemmy.world
    43·
    15 hours ago

    Very dumb question, but I’m kinda new to Linux. Do I have to manually update that or does it just do it when I update packages and the like? I’m on Arch btw.

    • 97xBang@feddit.onlineEnglish
      154·
      7 hours ago

      There’s no way you’re so new to Linux that you wouldn’t know if that would update automatically yet you’re running Arch btw. That’s like saying, “Do I need to do oil changes on my car? I built my engine, btw.”

      • TriflingToad@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        9·
        5 hours ago

        all you have to do to “run” arch is type out some lines from a YouTube video and press enter. With all the people saying “Arch! Arch!” at every corner it’s totally understandable that someone would try it and still be confused on basic stuff.

      • FooBarrington@lemmy.world
        7·
        5 hours ago

        Nah, there’s a bunch of people (even on Lemmy) that recommend Arch or Arch-derived distributions to newbies. Many mention they haven’t used any other distro themselves.

        • 97xBang@feddit.onlineEnglish
          1·
          5 hours ago

          They would still have to go through that ridiculous install following the Wiki, so I think that they are be pretty well educated on updates.

          • NekuSoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de
            2·
            4 hours ago

            Depends. There’s also the included archinstall script, which skips all of that. Just some minimal configuration you find on most distros (Language/Time Zones/Mirrors…) and that’s it.

            So yeah, nowadays it’s totally possible to end up with a working Arch installation without knowing anything about it besides that one command.

      • mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        2·
        5 hours ago

        Arch stereotype is over with archinstall and direct step by step tutorial. You don’t need to know how new release get updated to install arch

    • Communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzEnglish
      3·
      6 hours ago

      On linux, generally everything you install is through a centralized repository, you can think of it as an app store, arch is all entirely updated through pacman, pacman is just a command line way to interact with the app store.

        • Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee
          40·
          12 hours ago

          “I use Arch BTW” is a meme in the Linux community. It reflects the perceived urge of Arch users to boast about using it.

          Welcome to Linux :)

        • TimeNaan@lemmy.world
          710·
          9 hours ago

          Then Arch is kind of a terrible choice for you. I use it (btw), but I’ve been using linux since 2008.

          The learning curve and constant need to troubleshoot things isn’t great for beginners.

          EDIT: can someone explain why I’m getting downvoted? Isn’t this common knowledge that Mint and other begginner-friendly distros that don’t have complicated package managers and require less configuration and maintenance are better for someone who’s just starting with Linux?

          I myself began with Ubuntu back in '08 but nowadays use both Arch and Mint.

          • morbidcactus@lemmy.ca
            3·
            5 hours ago

            What are y’all doing that you need to troubleshoot constantly? My experience with arch is about the same as my experience with Debian.

          • TommySoda@lemmy.world
            14·
            9 hours ago

            That’s one of the reasons I chose arch. Because of the difficulty i can’t take shortcuts or be lazy and have to actually learn. When I tried something like Pop_OS I definitely enjoyed it but didn’t really learn anything because it was all done for me.

            • cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de
              2·
              8 hours ago

              Arch Linux can be a bit overwhelming for newbies when trying out for the first time. Hey if you are comfortable with it then so be it. But if you have tried other friendly distros before this you can get an understanding of different package managers, arch packages, AUR etc. And to answer the question if you installed KDE through pacman or AUR helper, then it will be updated automatically when you update other packages through it.

    • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      21·
      7 hours ago

      I am not sure if anyone answered your question in a way that you were expecting so let me try

      yes you will get the update but you might not know it because your config wont change, so you have to go into the theme settings and use the “default” to see the pretty

    • KubeRoot@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      4·
      10 hours ago

      In general, almost everything you install with pacman will update when you do pacman -Syu (and restart, in case of kernel updates). The way packages work, all the files needed for a piece of software to function are installed from a package, and when you install a newer version, it removes all the files from the old version and puts in new ones. (Caveats apply to configuration files you can modify - those don’t get replaced if you do)

      So after you update some software through pacman, it should be in an entirely clean state, just like if you just installed it. The main caveats apply to things like flatpak, which manage its own packages, and software like Steam and Discord, which have an additional auto-updater for some things that’s storing files separately.

      • kusivittula@sopuli.xyz
        4·
        11 hours ago

        I have tried both kde and gnome many times and i can’t stand either one. I’m forever stuck in cinnamon.

        somehow every distro that ships with kde has tons of big bugs that I can’t figure out (probably related to my setup), and gnome feels like a tablet UI. cinnamon won’t autosuspend but it’s the smallest headache of these…

        • BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca
          4·
          8 hours ago

          Funny enough Cinnamon is Gnome 3 done right.

          And I agree gnome in general has its sore points, I’m just used to them.

      • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
        11·
        13 hours ago

        I don’t even know which version of GNOME I run anymore. I only notice when the GNOME devs remove some feature I used to use.

        • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          3·
          13 hours ago

          Yeah, about the same. Honestly I’m in a state that I don’t really care even. GNOME does everything that I need it to while being very invisible and out of the way and I love it