• CosmoNova@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    Do you know which exact type of brain damage he suffers from? Because it states while damage in one affected area can have an effect on your political opinion, damage in different areas show no difference whatsoever. It wouldn’t surprise me to see if other types of brain damage could make you more liberal too. We do know liberal and conservative brains show some differences, so different damage in different areas could make you swing either way. I mean neuroscience is still in it’s infancy, so a lot of this is just observing and trying to see patterns. Saying “brain damage makes you conservative” is too broad of a claim. It’s certainly not backed by this study.

    EDIT: One more thing I don’t really understand is what this argument is trying to achive anyway. Do you want to take voting rights from people who had a stroke because they can’t decide for themselves? This topic is really thin ice and it’s usually fascist groups that propose such things.

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      It wouldn’t surprise me to see if other types of brain damage could make you more liberal too.

      I will happily read a study that demonstrates this, however I have only been able to locate results that show brain injuries tend to make people more conservative.

      If you want anyone to take you seriously on this topic you need to provide more than conjecture.

      As for my argument, I have done nothing more than provide the facts as I understand them based on scientific studies.

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        8 hours ago

        You don‘t have to take me seriously, though I think you probably should when I warn you about the dark path you‘re walking here. It‘s enough to take the study you provided seriously which is not as conclusive as you make it to be. Certainly not enough to boil political views down to a summarized medical record.

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          Fetterman famously had a major change in political ideology following a brain injury.

          Numerous studies have shown that brain injuries are associated with more conservative beliefs, though I don’t have the time to dig all of them up right now.

          though I think you probably should when I warn you about the dark path you‘re walking here.

          What would that be exactly?

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            Different person here. People with brain damage, along with other mental and physical disabilities, were the first group killed by the OG Nazis. Once they realized they could get away with that, they moved on to other marginalized groups.

            Many people suffer brain damage WITHOUT becoming Conservatives. Or becoming assholes. Fetterman has changed party views, but he was always an asshole.

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              It sounds like you’re missing the difference between low and high functioning _____. People with high-functioning autism, for example, deal with a lot of struggles that everyone handwaves away because they’re mostly able to, like, get to work on time. The Nazis would have walked right past them so long as their views aligned; they wanted the people who were visibly and undeniably brain damaged because because it’s all about appearances with facists. Plus it was the first half of the 1900s, they weren’t exactly experts at that shit.

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                I expect Neofascism to weaponize autism in a particular way: “Ah…you had a vaccination as a child. To the gulag with you, autistic.”

                By being an invisible and highly variable condition, the brand of autism can be pressed upon anyone the Regime wishes to remove from society. Inconvenient politician? Autism. That pretty girl who spurned you? Threaten them with autism, until they surrender their cherry. Then brand them anyway.

                Bluntly, I am very much expecting horrible things to come.

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                It sounds like you’re missing the point that the “dark path” of extermination starts with casting people with brain damage as the enemy. Dehumanization is a Nazi tactic even when used by people who consider themselves antifascist.

                Vote against Fetterman by all means, work to promote progressive goals. Research what kids of brain decay cause withering of empathy and how to restore it. But don’t dismiss those who’ve suffered brain damage as a whole. And maybe learn to recognize assholes even when they seem to be on your side,like Fetterman before the damage stripped away his progressive veneer.

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                  I don’t see us doing that, though, so I’m not sure how to agree with you while also explaining that you’re agreeing with our point and maybe just aren’t seeing that.

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      8 hours ago

      Saying “brain damage makes you conservative” is too broad of a claim

      Just circling back to this because that is explicitly not what I said. Read what I commented again.

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      8 hours ago

      Voting rights no, but maybe that should be replaced by appointment after major head injuries. I’d also like to see an age limit on candidates tied to SS retirement age.