like you go to the not-believing-until-seeing convention with lies and what? expect to get away with it?

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    4 months ago

    I didn’t ask about Ideal world NATO, I asked about NATO which implies the context of reality we currently live in.

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      4 months ago

      Did I not answer that question in my first comment? Wait - I did.

      I then tried to hint that (as my first comment actually started), we as species should try to build a better world, focusing on providing the minimum for everyone before giving very few everything there is.

      Is NATO perfect? No, it sucks, but we currently won’t do any better. Like nothing I keep repeating all over here.

      But I wish we stopped everything, and I mean everything apart from housing and basic food, to actually solve the climate crisis.

      And, ironic as it is, stopping everything would actually be the best thing right now.

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        4 months ago

        Building a better world involves unconditional support of mutual defence pacts such as NATO. Once you’ve eliminated the cause for NATO, then dissolving NATO will make sense. Building a better world without NATO just sounds like some Putin/CCP Cocksucking in the context of our reality.

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          4 months ago

          Once you’ve eliminated the cause for NATO, then dissolving NATO will make sense.

          The cause for NATO was eliminated. NATO didn’t dissolve. It grew. Spoiler alert: there are no good guys in a war between imperialists.