“We see it now: The hate has shifted to the trans community,” Walz said. “They see that as an opportunity. If you’re watching any sporting events right now, you see that Donald Trump’s closing arguments are to demonize a group of people for being who they are.”

“We’re out there trying to make the case that access to healthcare, a clean environment, manufacturing jobs, and keeping your local hospital open are what people are really concerned about,” he continued. “They’re running millions of dollars of ads demonizing folks who are just trying to live their lives.”

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    This is what a man looks like. Defending the persecuted because it matters, not a wimp hiding behind his daddy’s fortune or a loaded gun.

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      Now wait a minute, he may speak perfect English without the faintest trace of a French accent, but I’m doubting he was born and raised in France like Captain Picard and his brother and his brother’s family.

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      He ain’t no Frenchie. I think you mean Archer, or you’re probably as narrow-minded as the Vulcans, WHO WON’T LET US EXPLORE SPACE IN PEACE, which is what we have been working hard for and what daddy wanted for us 🎶🤠🎸🚀🦅🎶 Space pregnancy? Trip~! 😂👏🤣👏😅👏🤣👏😂

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        bro for real space exploring is hard tho, my dog peed on some apparently sacred tree and the aliens flipped out, it’s like sorry where else am I supposed to walk my dog? Maybe don’t have sacred sites that my dog thinks are for peeing on?

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          ((Thanks for showing up - i got jumped by reddit goblins in this thread - Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra))

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            Fuck Yankies and Supersquirrel Pee On Either A Logo For A Sports Team Or A Country (both?) Beneath Lemmy.World In The Dungeon Of Torment.

            Our Eyes Raise Northward To The True Lords Of Batts And Mitts, The Wearers Of The Red Sox!!

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    I’m honestly heartened to hear Waltz specfically voice support for trans folk. This is opposed to Harris who said she would follow the law in regards to my community, which sounds good but I need everyone to understand that it could be said by a governor in a southern state enforcing anti trans legislation. Waltz actually went the distance to say we should to be legally left alone. There is a stark difference between these two statements, even if I glad to hear both.

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      We’re just a few weeks away from the election. The candidates have two different but important roles.

      • Presidential candidate: keep the base in line while not alienating swing voters
      • VP candidate: say things that the presidential candidate can’t say

      As much as you may want Harris to say something like “We will defend the trans community,” it’s going to alienate swing voters.

      It makes no earthly sense the election is this close but it is. Kamala can’t afford a misstep but Tim can.

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        It’s insane the amount of trans hate I have been hearing this past month alone (in real life). I have to explain: Sure, they weren’t always front and center as today’s political issues make them seem but they still existed. Their existence is not a recent development in any way. Tiktok isn’t turning your kids into anything.

        It’s not just people who identify as Republicans or religious people either. I can see why the anti-queer vote is important to both parties; their numbers are staggering.

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        I completely understand that and I do not fault Harris for giving a precise diplomatic answer in the Fox interview on what some voters see as a sensitive issue. Which is difficult for me to even type because the concept of my existence is a “political issue” to some.

        However, I do take exception with it being characterized as “Harris announce support for trans community”, because that’s just not what she said. Which is why I am happy to hear Waltz clarify and go further.

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          Hey, I just wanted to tell you something cause it sounds like you might be in a bad place. Even with all of the political finger pointing surrounding your identity, you need to know something very important.

          Your life matters. Your experiences matter. Your feelings matter.

          You matter.

          Ignore all the hatred and all the fear. Ignore the bigotry and close mindedness. Ignore it all and know that there are so many people out there that will love you and support you and accept you.

          You are not alone.

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            We can’t ignore it when they’re constantly passing more and more draconian laws that make our lives infinitely harder all across the United States.

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              You’re correct. But i also said Ignore and not “do nothing”. It’s possible to ignore the hate while still fighting for your rights.

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      Hey not trying to be an internet jerk, just wanted to point out that his last name is Walz not “Waltz”. Hope you have a great day.

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      The Harris Administration is actively trying to silence Walz’s beliefs.

      It’s ironic because it’s Walz himself that has ignited support for Harris.

      So frustrating as a progressive

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      Harris spoke in support of funding all transgender healthcare as doctors see necessary, including for inmates, years ago and when asked to double down on that stance recently she did so.

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          https://www.factcheck.org/2024/10/harris-position-on-health-care-for-transgender-prisoners-and-detainees/

          The afformentioned ACLU stance survey was in 2019

          https://assets.aclu.org/live/uploads/2024/08/Harris-ACLU-Candidate-Questionnaire.pdf

          1. As President will you use your executive authority to ensure that transgender and non- binary people who rely on the state for medical care — including those in prison and immigration detention — will have access to comprehensive treatment associated with gender transition, including all necessary surgical care? If yes, how will you do so?

          Yes X No ⬜

          Explanation (no more than 500 words): It is important that transgender individuals who rely on the state for care receive the treatment they need, which includes access to treatment associated with gender transition. That’s why, as Attorney General, I pushed the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation to provide gender transition surgery to state inmates. I support policies ensuring that federal prisoners and detainees are able to obtain medically necessary care for gender transition, including surgical care, while incarcerated or detained. Transition treatment is a medical necessity, and I will direct all federal agencies responsible for providing essential medical care to deliver transition treatment.

          Despite it being seen as good and decent by us, many people here appear to be completely unaware while for conservatives this has been a huge anti-Harris talking point. Trump even brought it up during the debate.

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      I’m glad Harris framed it that way. It’s a position that’s easy to make into a rough sound bite. The goal is always to not make the election about trans people. Politicians harping on trans issues regardless of position do poorly. Call opposition to us a real freak show move and talk about how real Americans want the Midwestern values of all of us just getting along at our manufacturing jobs.

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    The cynic in me is telling me that taking time to speak about such a small demographic, all of whom already have a clear reason to side with him, won’t gain a single extra vote.

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      Of course it will get votes. Reminding people of basic human decency is a time honored campaign tactic, especially when the opponent is being a giant jerkface.

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        If people are only just now seeing which party aligns with basic human decency then my expectations are low.

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          This you?

          The cynic in me is telling me that taking time to speak about such a small demographic, all of whom already have a clear reason to side with him, won’t gain a single extra vote.

          Then yes I was. It isn’t just about that demographic.

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            Me, a Democrat supporter, in this discussion on Lemmy of all places

            You think I need to be reminded that protecting minority demographics including trans is a popular stance? You think I didn’t know that information? You think that information detracts from the point that it’s not a stance capable of attracting swing voters this late in the election cycle?

            You’ve clearly built an opponent in your mind and its all you can see when you look at me. I shut his ass down immediately rather than engage in that conversation.

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      The point isn’t to get the trans vote. Like you say it’s kinda a no brainer for trans people to vote for anyone running against a transphobic guy.

      The point is to put out a rational response to what Trump is doing. Explain to people that might be worried about trans people that it’s just a tactic meant to distract people from the real issues.

      So get people to be less scared of trans people so they’ll focus on actual issues and vote Dem.

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      No, but:

      1. It will build enthusiasm and make it more likely for people to actually go out and vote.

      2. It’s the fucking right thing to do, and I’m glad to see a politician stand for it.

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    I would crawl across barbed wire to vote Harris this year, but I think she’d happily backstab the trans community if she got republican votes in exchange.

    Walz seems like an actual mensch.

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      She defended trans people while on Fox in front of that republican audience. She shut down the line of anti-trans questioning fairly quickly

      She reaffirmed her commitment to following the law, which requires that transgender inmates receive medically necessary care, which includes gender affirming care. When pressed further, she pushed back, comparing Trump’s disproportionate spending on this issue to his lack of focus on the larger issues affecting the American people.

      https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/kamala-harris-shuts-down-fox-news

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        Everyone’s overlooking the fact that she legitimized gender-affirming healthcare as medically necessary on live tv. And refused to walk it back. She’s not really what I’d consider a true ally, but she did us a real solid there.

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        “I’m just gonna do what the law says, and btw he did it too” is not a defense of trans people. It’s minimizing the issue, which may be a wise sell towards actual Republicans, but it’s not an active defense of why you should be ok with trans people existing.

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          Gotta love Lemmy apps that tag users… This person is a Jill Stein shill and acting in bad faith.

          Just for some context for you folks.

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            LOL, you can actually search my history for ‘Jill Stein’ to know what I think of her. Your tagging is extremely dumb.

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          Dont you love when liberals talk down to you and your concerns as if they don’t exist? They co-opt the currently popular marginalized community and speak on their behalf while telling them to stay quiet, they are talking.

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      Walz walks the walk. MN is a sanctuary state for trans people in the Midwest. Age appropriate gender affirming care for minors is protected by law, and the state refuses to work with subpoenas about traveling for healthcare.

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          … The VP can’t overrule the president. They also cannot write laws. They do have a lot of things they can do though. Not sure what you think she was supposed to do that she hasn’t though, if it was about overruling past legislature, She can’t. You have to vote for Congress/senators for such.

          That’s on purpose… We were taught such in elementary school, middle school, and high school, but so many people seem to not remember anything.

          You don’t ask a judge to write a law, he’s in the wrong branch. Same with a VP.

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            In biden’s one and only press conference, he said that Harris agreed with every single policy of the administration and her input was crucial to him supporting anything.

            She’s also had a chance on the campaign trail to stray from his policies and she has not

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            The VP can’t overrule the president.

            She can differ from him on the campaign trail. She has chosen not to.

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              Good, she needs to win the election. Biden Beat Trump last time, trying to differentiate herself too much from him could tank her chances this time.

              Let’s see what happens once she’s in office. Or, I guess we can watch as Trump funnels infinite firepower to Israel so that they can “finish the job”. The voters will decide that, so maybe consider what’s actually at stake.

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                Good, she needs to win the election. Biden Beat Trump last time, trying to differentiate herself too much from him could tank her chances this time.

                Don’t see you whining when she moves to Biden’s right. Biden didn’t promise to appoint a Republican to his cabinet. You’re all in on that because it’s not the left you hate because the left opposes genocide.

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      What are Republicans offering for trans rights? For something so polarizing I’d argue that simply standing up for it is anything but a hollow platitude. Let’s normalize it

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          Oh they care. They care a great deal. They care so much that they want to put trans people in conversion camps.

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            Republicans DONT PRETEND TO CARE. They will tell a person to their face that they think. The ones that will lie to our faces talking about caring so much than doing nothing while our backs are turned are the greater threat.

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              Really? You think Democrats are a greater threat than the ones promising to take all trans rights away and put trans people in conversion camps because you’ve decided that Democrats are only pretending to care?

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                History has shown us time and again their inaction allows Republicans laws to take hold. Dems haven’t done shit in the face of the GOP passing over 500 anti trans laws. Dems are the greater threat because trans believe they have an ally in the person about to stab them in the back

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          Oh, the Republicans care. They care about their weird and nasty desire to opress trans folk a great deal.