Lemmy.World is the largest instance, and they preemptively defederated from hexbear.net a year ago, citing several examples of user comments that they wanted to protect their own userbase from.
Many other large instances have done similarly - another one is programming.dev (statement), although in their case if was merely to prevent one-sided conversations after hexbear.net defederated from them. The funny part of that story is how the admins took a vote, which indicated an unwillingness to defederate (27 to 19) but then did it anyway:-).
Anyway, many users of hexbear.net have made quite the reputation for themselves around the Fediverse, to the point where MANY instances felt the need to defederate from the entire instance (think: Truth Social but claiming to be leftist). And at this point, many users on it seem proud of that or at least consider it part of the cost of traversing the wider Fediverse using an account based on hexbear.net.
Yeah, I know they have been defederated to pieces, albeit not in as much detail as you provided, I was just trying to confirm that that was the reason, to better understand how federation works.
Our instance has lately been blocking some of their communities, too.
I don’t quite understand the vote results, especially in conjunction with the post content, I don’t see any ties, but I was most surprised by the fact that they voted to defederate from blahaj.zone? Isn’t hexbear rabidly pro-inclusion, in particular regarding trans people?
Hexbear has very tight moderation to make sure it’s a comfortable place for minorities and people who don’t like interacting with racism, misogyny, transphobia etc. I browse blahaj.zone occasionally and its moderation is just not good. The trans communities attract chasers which makes me not want to post there, and in 196 I regularly come across posts that are misogynistic or transphobic and have been up for days. I always report them and they often (not always) get deleted after like a day, which in my opinion is too late because the harm has been done (a 2 day old post should have been removed whenever a mod came across it).
On hexbear I’ve not seen posts that were so blatantly misogynistic or transphobic, and posts get removed much faster. This is why many trans people in our community don’t want to federate with blahaj.
In short, users from Blahaj.Zone (as well as other Lemmy instances) were complaining about Hexbear users’ obnoxious behavior, “Hexbear users calling people “libs” as an insult, denying crimes of Russia and China, denying the crimes of Stalin.”
Users started asking to defederate from Hexbear and admin of Blahaj.Zone opened a thread to talk about it, which Hexbear users attacked and spammed the thread with images.
Then, Hexbear user complained about c/196, that their comments were being removed, “comments that called out the use of the r-word and other call-outs”. At which point, Hexbear preemptively defederated from Blahaj, mostly citing the incident above.
I linked the whole thing, so you can see the details for yourself. But at the end of the day, I would say that the incident started with Hexbear users being Hexbear users.
I was referring to the last time we had a discussion on hexbear about a possible refederation with blahaj which was a few months ago. The drama around the defederation wasn’t really relevant for that discussion as it was a long time ago. Blahaj’s admin is open to federation with hexbear because we have a huge trans community and it would be nice to connect them with the community in blahaj, but due to the issues I mentioned it’s not really in the best interest of our trans community to federate.
Chasers are people who fetishise trans people. Trans spaces often attract people who won’t stop talking about our body parts which gets very uncomfortable.
This is disingenuous a hell and just some horseshoe theory bullshit where you insinuate we are the same as fascists because you feel uncomfortable with any criticism of liberalism from anyone to your left.
Lemmy.World is the largest instance, and they preemptively defederated from hexbear.net a year ago, citing several examples of user comments that they wanted to protect their own userbase from.
Many other large instances have done similarly - another one is programming.dev (statement), although in their case if was merely to prevent one-sided conversations after hexbear.net defederated from them. The funny part of that story is how the admins took a vote, which indicated an unwillingness to defederate (27 to 19) but then did it anyway:-).
Anyway, many users of hexbear.net have made quite the reputation for themselves around the Fediverse, to the point where MANY instances felt the need to defederate from the entire instance (think: Truth Social but claiming to be leftist). And at this point, many users on it seem proud of that or at least consider it part of the cost of traversing the wider Fediverse using an account based on hexbear.net.
Yeah, I know they have been defederated to pieces, albeit not in as much detail as you provided, I was just trying to confirm that that was the reason, to better understand how federation works. Our instance has lately been blocking some of their communities, too.
I don’t quite understand the vote results, especially in conjunction with the post content, I don’t see any ties, but I was most surprised by the fact that they voted to defederate from blahaj.zone? Isn’t hexbear rabidly pro-inclusion, in particular regarding trans people?
Hexbear has very tight moderation to make sure it’s a comfortable place for minorities and people who don’t like interacting with racism, misogyny, transphobia etc. I browse blahaj.zone occasionally and its moderation is just not good. The trans communities attract chasers which makes me not want to post there, and in 196 I regularly come across posts that are misogynistic or transphobic and have been up for days. I always report them and they often (not always) get deleted after like a day, which in my opinion is too late because the harm has been done (a 2 day old post should have been removed whenever a mod came across it).
On hexbear I’ve not seen posts that were so blatantly misogynistic or transphobic, and posts get removed much faster. This is why many trans people in our community don’t want to federate with blahaj.
Idk if you see @OpenStars’ comment, but he provided a link to the summary from blahaj.zone’s perspective. It does mention an incident with c/196, but it’s not the whole picture.
In short, users from Blahaj.Zone (as well as other Lemmy instances) were complaining about Hexbear users’ obnoxious behavior, “Hexbear users calling people “libs” as an insult, denying crimes of Russia and China, denying the crimes of Stalin.”
Users started asking to defederate from Hexbear and admin of Blahaj.Zone opened a thread to talk about it, which Hexbear users attacked and spammed the thread with images. Then, Hexbear user complained about c/196, that their comments were being removed, “comments that called out the use of the r-word and other call-outs”. At which point, Hexbear preemptively defederated from Blahaj, mostly citing the incident above.
I linked the whole thing, so you can see the details for yourself. But at the end of the day, I would say that the incident started with Hexbear users being Hexbear users.
But also, what are “chasers”?
I was referring to the last time we had a discussion on hexbear about a possible refederation with blahaj which was a few months ago. The drama around the defederation wasn’t really relevant for that discussion as it was a long time ago. Blahaj’s admin is open to federation with hexbear because we have a huge trans community and it would be nice to connect them with the community in blahaj, but due to the issues I mentioned it’s not really in the best interest of our trans community to federate.
Chasers are people who fetishise trans people. Trans spaces often attract people who won’t stop talking about our body parts which gets very uncomfortable.
This is disingenuous a hell and just some horseshoe theory bullshit where you insinuate we are the same as fascists because you feel uncomfortable with any criticism of liberalism from anyone to your left.