I am trying to get away from Google and am looking for a decent cloud service that’s integrated well into Linux, either by itself or by using rclone.
I tried Proton drive, but it is laggy and overall not very good.
I just need storage, nothing fancy. Self hosting is not an option tough, at this time.
EDIT: I don’t want to write the same answer 15 times, so I’ll just put this here: Thanks a lot for the recommendations to all of you! I’ve got some reading up to do now :-)
I’m using filen.io. E2ee and zero knowledge service from Germany. Their desktop client just works.
Same, filen is great and their client is the best I’ve used, being able to set up individual syncs with one-way backups is fantastic.
I use it too, as well as Infomaniak KDrive (not E2EE)
Also been very happy with Filen.
Nextcloud works well, and has a desktop client that integrates well with linux DEs (at least gnome and KDE).
Self-hosting is obviously what a lot of people do, me included, but it is not the only option. Nextcloud accounts are available through several hosting providers.
How much storage do you need and how much are you willing to spend?
250 GB to 1 TB. Not more than 5 Dollars a month.
I use sycthing and it’setup and forget.
Syncthing has been amazing. The downside is that you need the space to do the whole share replica on each box. Of course, that just makes me be a better steward of my own data archival.
You can put a share send only and another receive only
The downside of doing this is that the shares always show out of sync in the UI.
For someone who likes everything showing green, those purple warnings hurt my soul
That doesn’t address the original point which is whatever’s shared has to exist on all machines.
Either way, you would need to backup your data if you were self hosting Nextcloud or friends so you do need multiple copies of it anyway.
put a share send only and another receive only
That’s not a bad idea. I do that on my phone for the camera, but never thought to use it in other ways.
And it can also do three-way, bi-directional sync. Which feels kind of crazy to me
I’ve been using pcloud. You can choose for the data to be hosted in EU. Doesn’t have a client but works well with rclone (and Round Sync on Android). And from time to time they offer “lifetime” package - no subscription
I have a pCloud client running on my EndeavourOS system. I think it may be an appimage, but it updates no problem when they release one. Releases page: https://www.pcloud.com/release-notes/linux.html
Ah. Then it must have not fit my use-case at the time. I don’t remember
Can you define which remote dir should be synced where? That might have been my issue
I can’t recall if that can be done, but it doesn’t sound familiar. I’ll look later and update if I see anything like that.
UPDATE: There is a “Sync” config item that allows you to define a Local Folder and a corresponding pCloud Drive Folder. It looks like you can define a local folder, but then the ‘pCloud folder’ is any folder you have in your pCloud drive, existing or new. Could that be what you’re looking for?
That’s definitely what my scripts, that I moved to using, do. Maybe the feature was missing back then
I think of cloud storage as meaning automatic synchronization to a phone app and crap like that. If you just want plain storage, I’m happy with Hetzner Storage Box. The one I have is in EU so that adds some network latency. I don’t think they have it in the US yet.
You could also go on lowenspirit.com and look at storage offers. servarica.ca has some nice ones that are supposed to be good, but I haven’t tried them myself. They are in the Montreal area.
The question of how much Data produces different recommendations. For example if over 5TB rsync.net
Man $500 a month for 50TB.
For less than that, I could buy 5x10TB hard drives every two months. Sure there’s value in the hosting and internet, but why is it so damned expensive compared to the price of hosting it?
You’re paying for redundancies in different regions, migrations, backups, upgrades, maintenance, generally not having to worry about losing your data. The storage costs nothing.
Technically you can buy a 10TB Seagate EXOS for $114; so you could buy the disk storage even more frequently if you wanted.
But if you don’t want to host your own storage, you will have to pay the hosting company’s building rent, taxes, salaries for their staff and their executives bonuses.
Or you can build a Machine that is at a friend’s house and pay only the hardware costs and benefit your friend. You know, building community…
Those cheaper drives scare me.
What grinds my gears is you can rent enough compute to handle this for $30 a month. That covers redundant internet, staff, fire suppression, generators, air conditioning.
I want to couple that with a chassis full of sata. Obviously more power and heat but not 16 times that.
You can get 2u of colocation for about a hundred bucks per month. I’ve been pondering for a few years building out a 4u chassis and doing a friends and fam storage co-op. You could do a 208tb (real 189) z2 with two parity drives for around $4,500 bucks plus 100-130 a month.
The current pricing is all based on SAS. Even the companies that aren’t using SAS are still charging like it is.
My husband says that they follow a “bathtub” curve and they either die in the first 60 days or last about 2 years when they are scheduled to be replaced.
Further he says enterprise drives stopped having ECC in 2008; so they stopped having any reason to trust them more.
I don’t trust anything further than their warranty. They’re setting their warranty to protect their bank account; those numbers will average in their favor.
Yeah, we don’t trust their warranties; the manufacturers have repeatedly failed to honor their obligations even when drives die well within the manufacturer warranty.
Also they have become crap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b0JcNqkZrk
you could also use some s3 object storage service, backblaze’s one is $6/TB/month
Yeah but S3 egress fees are a kick in the face if you need to recover.
Wasabi is also an option
R2 doesn’t charge egress fees, not sure how the price compares otherwise though.
Take pCloud - I paid one time, for a lifetime of 2 TB…
Jottacloud is pretty good. They have a Linux CLI too
Linux only, SSH works fine. Not e2ee. Nextcloud works fine but extra work unless you use a service provider. It can be e2ee but not normally so. Syncthing worth a look too. It is not cloud storage, but direct device transfer. Bitwarden send is useful too if you want to juat send file someone, and thunderbird is working on thunderbird send which might be interesting.
Maybe Synology if you want your own lan NAS?
For me personally, I split up my data into different cloud storage solutions depending on the sensitivity of the data, and frequency of access on the data.
For stuff I need quick access to, I use cryptomator with MEGA. MEGA has a pretty decent Linux App, but recommend using with cryptomancer or any sync-friendly encryption tool so that they can’t read the data.
For stuff I infrequently access, I personally just use Proton Drive. Plan to fully switch to using them once they have a functional Linux desktop application that supports syncing.
For more sensitive stuff like SSH Keys or documents that might contain my sensitive personal information, I personally just use VeraCrypt and store the encrypted file on a thumb drive, backing it up to another thumb drive every week.
I’ve been using mega. They have a decent linux client and file manager integrations.
