Hasan Piker, the biggest progressive political streamer in America, was detained by Customs and Border Protection for hours of questioning upon returning to the U.S. from a trip to France this weekend. Piker posted about the incident on X and later talked about it on stream.

He was detained in Chiago and questioned for two hours about protected journalistic activities like who he’s interviewed and his political beliefs. He was asked whether or not he’d interviewed Hamas, Houthis, or Hezbollah members. He was questioned about his opinions on Trump and Israel and asked about his history of bans on Twitch. His phone and laptop were not confiscated.

      • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catM
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        Lol your most solid source is a random post from some politician’s web page?

        He opposes terrorism. Which is why he opposes Israel. Which is what gets him in trouble.

        He may also have said some things in support of terrorism by Hamas, which would be fucked up in my opinion. I don’t know and I have no plans to take this web page seriously about it. He is still allowed to go on the internet and say those things, according to the first amendment, and this attempt to threaten him about it is horrifying whatever his opinions are. What part of “I get to say whatever the fuck I want because those are my opinions” doesn’t make sense here?

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          Lol your most solid source is a random post from some politician’s web page?

          Dude, you have a PDF there with ALL THE RELEVANT CITATIONS AND CLIPS from his streams in second paragraph. This is the primary source. You can’t bring anything better to the table.

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            He is still allowed to go on the internet and say those things, according to the first amendment, and this attempt to threaten him about it is horrifying whatever his opinions are. What part of “I get to say whatever the fuck I want because those are my opinions” doesn’t make sense here?

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              What part of “I get to say whatever the fuck I want because those are my opinions” doesn’t make sense here?

              Promoting terrorism isn’t protected by free speech laws. Never was, never will be

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                Promoting terrorism by saying Israel “has every right to defend themselves,” is 100% protected. Both by the current application of the law, and by its proper intent. I’m actually not very concerned with the current application of the law to pro-Palestinian advocacy (“Palestine has every right to defend themselves”) because the current application is a bunch of tyrannical bullshit, and I hope we are able to restore it to something sort of adjacent to good sense and the intent of the framers soon.

                You’re advocating for it being legal to advocate for terrorism, or in fact to commit it, but illegal to make terrorists uncomfortable by making edgelord statements, if the terrorists or their friends happen to be in power. That is a profoundly fucked up point of view. Pretty much every terroristic regime has usually labelled any resistance to them as “terrorism” as one of the key steps in making it illegal to resist their terrorism.

                If you’re having trouble grasping what I am saying, I am saying that Israel’s mass slaughter of civilians including torture, starvation, bombing of hospitals, deliberately shooting children, basically any type of war crime you could think of, is terrorism. So far they have committed roughly 50 September 11ths in Gaza, at least, and they have plans to do many many more.

                Hamas does commit terrorism also, yes, although far less than Israel. But the main thing I am saying is that supporting terrorism is unequivocally legal, and very popular, in the United States, as long as the terrorism is being done by our friends.

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                  How did we get here? First some dude claims that I’m lying and that I have no sources, and then when I provide undeniable evidence, discussion swiftly switches from defending Hasan to defending Hamas. Are you really defending them because you think their attacks on civilians are justified, or you just like Hasan and don’t want his image to be stained?

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                    Sorry to say, but you are a special kind of stupid. One day the terrorist state known as Israel will collapse and we will celebrate.

                    I will not excuse the abhorrent atrocities the IDF did. Not today, not ever.

                    Ps. From long Ethan viewer: he is an unstable person and his argument are in bad faith.

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                    Yeah, I sure was defending Hamas. Boy howdy. That sure is exactly what I said.

                    I suspect you are intentionally just trying to stir shit by not reading the messages you’re getting and pretending they say something else. If that is not the case, I would really encourage you to go back, carefully read what I wrote, and then after tell me back what you learned about what my attitude is towards Hamas, because you have severely misunderstood.

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              Also, you don’t have to watch Hasan Piker for long to see that this characterization of him is totally absurd, I don’t know whether it is more embarassing that people actually believe Hasan Piker is like this or that they are willing to lie so boldfacedly about it.

              Hasan doesn’t advocate for violence like this, I am sure he has said some spicey shit but trying to frame his as a terrorist is a dangerous road to walk and these people are doing it gleefully.

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        “America Deserved 9/11”

        Let’s phrase this a different way. “America reaped what it sowed,” or “America made its bed and is now lying in it.” This is a pretty solid “yup” from me. We armed, trained, and funded the leaders of the group that carried out the attack, among many other things

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          No one is arguing whether America or Israel is bad.

          No one deserved to be killed or lose their loved ones on 9/11 or any other event. Thinking that civilians deserve to die because a government is bad is terrorist mentality.

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            When someone says “America,” it seems obvious they’re talking about the country as a whole or its leadership, and not individual people. He very clearly is not saying “Americans deserved to die.”

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              That is not as obvious as you think it is. I would argue that the first thing most people would think it meant is “americans deserved to die”, not “the Bush administration deserved the scrutiny and criticism it brought”

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                Tell me what trial did bush or subsequent war criminal administration faced to make it an argument that people don’t support their actions?

                One even got a nobel peace prize, despite war crimes. Got no pushback from the populace.

                If you harbor criminals with open records (who knows how many closed records), be ready for some retaliation?

                Isnt this what US/Israel claims when they attack civs? But somehow they’re never labeled poorly as “war crimes” or “terrorists”. hmm… makes you think

                But don’t be afraid call all the region terrorists, if it makes you sleep better.

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                  Whataboutism, and excusing inexcusable actions because of “retaliation”.

                  I haven’t once condoned anything the US military did. Doesn’t mean people deserved to die.

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        We literally murdered 100s of thousands prior to 9/11 and then we proceeded to murder millions of innocents after. We still deserve it.

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      Which part is nonsense? The part where he said the houthis actions were a good thing, the part in the full debate you linked where he quadrupled down on it, or the fact that the houthis are registered as a terrorist organization and have kidnapped and held innocent civilians hostage for a year?

      I saw the full unedited Ethan and Hasan debate, and Hasan’s context and excuses just made me disgusted.

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        You are vaguely referencing a bunch of stuff and simultaneously being angry I am not being specific enough.

        Be specific, what are you claiming Hasan has done illegally or wrongly? You claim he “supports” a “terrorist” organization but the onus is on you to prove in exhaustive and specific terms why I should believe you when you say the words “support” and '“terrorist” that you aren’t just moving empty hot air and hate around with your mouth.

        I saw the full unedited Ethan and Hasan debate, and Hasan’s context and excuses just made me disgusted.

        Nobody is surprised by this, your behavior makes it crystal clear this is the kind of position you would have.

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          You’re trying to delegitimize what I’m saying by saying I’m emotional and unspecific, and attacking my character. You’re purposefully playing dumb to avoid the actual point I’m making. Then you try to move the goalpost by asking what he’s done that is illegal or wrong, which is not what I’m talking about.

          Here are the direct quotes so there is no mistaking it. Both points were reiterated in the video you linked.

          “I think what the houthis are doing is a good thing” -Hasan

          “We support you” -Hasan when interviewing a houthi terrorist.

          Hasan is a terrorist supporter as evident by the above direct quotes.

          As for what I found disgusting was when he excused his claims about the rape allegations being false and saying there was no evidence. Also in the video you linked.

          Nobody is surprised by this, your behavior makes it crystal clear this is the kind of position you would have.

          What is your point with this? Are you shaming me for watching the full debate that was supposed to clear everything up on both sides? Also didn’t you just link an asmongold-style reaction video to that whole debate?

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            “I think what the houthis are doing is a good thing” -Hasan

            That’s pretty vague. If I said I support what America does, that doesn’t necessarily mean I support the worst actions the state has ever taken.

            Hasan is a terrorist supporter as evident by the above direct quotes.

            Again, just because a group ends up on a terrorist list doesn’t really mean much besides that they’re currently unaligned with US interest. The “terrorist” dogma has really lost its bite since the war on terror began.

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              If the context was “America kidnapped civilians” and someone said “I think what the Americans are doing is a good thing”, then yes, that would paint a bad picture. And it was vague at first but after Hasan explained himself in the debate, it became clear that he was excusing the kidnappings.

              Do you not think what they did was terrorism? Do you want to explain to the hostages that they were just overreacting and that their kidnappers actually aren’t that bad, and it’s just some dogma?

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        You’re doing the thing.

        Hasan explained why he supports the Houthis actions, why are you leaving out that context? Is it because most people might actually sympathize with it as well? Y’all just can’t help yourselves with your outrage, can you? lmfao

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          No one sympathizes with the houthis.

          Also I’m not leaving out any context. There is no universe where anything the houthis did was excusable. Hasan did explain it, and it made him look worse. He tries to justify the kidnapping of innocent civilians (some Asian workers who had nothing to do with it, who were working on a brittish vessel only partially owned by some Jewish person.) and holding them hostage for a year in that debate. “What else were they supposed to do?” How about not terrorism? How about going to Palestine? How about activism, propaganda, anything other than terrorism?