• Investors, analysts and the general public seem deeply unimpressed with Tesla’s robotaxi event earlier this week.
  • Tesla’s stock closed down 8% on Friday, when it was supposed to be a propulsive event for the company.
  • CEO Elon Musk has vowed to make Tesla into an AI and robotics powerhouse, but proof of this plan feels in short supply.
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      2 days ago

      Eh, I think their current products are fine (except Cybertruck, that’s ridiculous). Every company has recalls, and Tesla’s are generally pretty mild (again, except Cybertruck).

      The main issue is that Elon really likes to overpromise and underdeliver. If he would flip that, I think people would be a lot more excited about this event. But saying “start production in 2025, available in 2026” means nothing when he’s been off by years with previous announcements. IMO, he shouldn’t have had the event until there was a firm delivery date. And that doesn’t just mean build capacity, they should be substantially far into the regulatory process before even presenting it publicly.

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        Eh, I think their current products are fine (except Cybertruck, that’s ridiculous). Every company has recalls, and Tesla’s are generally pretty mild (again, except Cybertruck).

        Don’t they famously have an issues with QC? It wasn’t all that long that their other cars had problems with panel gaps, or manufacturing material left inside, etc.

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        Their current products are not fine, and he kills people when he acts like they are. FSD is nowhere near ready for the road. It wouldn’t be such a problem if he wasn’t such a bitch about using lidar.

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          Sure, his messaging about FSD is absolutely dangerous and irresponsible, but mechanically, Tesla’s cars have been quite solid.

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    Five years ago the audience would have fawned all over this kind of crap.

    It’s good to see people are wise to his stock pumping strategy now.

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    Elon normally throws a dead cat like this onto the table every time he plans on either increasing his compensation or he plans on selling a bunch of shares as in the past the dead cat has boosted the share price. Funding Trumps campaign cant be cheap. I’m glad that the market seems to be finally cottoning on to his grifting with this.

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      It was about time that people caught up with his schtick of straight up lying, remember the roadster announced 7 years ago? Where is that?

      The semis? Stopped taking orders.

      Cybertruck is a complete failure, took 5 years to deliver.

      The cheap Tesla that was promisef, nowhere to be seen.

      Your tesla becoming a self driving taxi while you dont use it and earning you money? Vaporwave.

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      It’s about time, really. He went off the deep end 5-6 years ago and proved he was just an arrogant salesman; the engineers/workforce is what achieved the consistent, iterative successes in SpaceX and Tesla for the decade prior. Since then he’s done nothing but pump the stock with hopes and dreams (and financial crimes), and he’s probably been a negative weight on productivity in all of his companies.

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          Pedo guy wanted to hog the spotlight with his billionaire death trap submarine stunt.

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        There’s little doubt that he squeezes high productivity out of people. He just does so in a combative and oppressive way that I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near.

        I also believe that he pushes his engineering teams through problem solving challenges (which does not make him an engineer) by ruthlessly interrogating everything. That’s not salesmanship…. But I’m not sure what you’d call it. Product, maybe?

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      Here’s their all time stock price graph. Not exactly a death spiral, though that 3y performance number makes it sound so. The 1, 2, and 5 year numbers don’t tell the same story. You might even say it was a bit of a cherry pick.

      Disclaimer: I own no TSLA shares. I just know how to manipulate stats for effect, so I know when it’s being done to me :)

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        Regardless of it’s performance, it’s astronomically overvalued. Tesla’s market cap is larger than 5 of the nearest rivals combined. The value of their shares doesn’t reflect reality.

        But reality inevitably catches up. Their last quarterlies were not looking good. The market is saturated with EVs now and Tesla is going to struggle to attract new customers, especially with the divisive politics of Elon Musk. About the only reason Tesla is still dominant in North America is because they are still the cheapest in town, but that is reflected in the shoddy build quality and bare bones interior.

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          It is hugely overvalued. We should scoff at their crazy highs instead of penalizing them for being below them. You can’t necessarily be blamed because at certain points investors wildly overvalued you. A lot of times the stock market punishes success. My employer for example doubled its business during COVID and when that spike eventually cooled off we were still on a good growth trajectory but a couple of quarters came in at negative YoY revenue and of course everyone lost their minds. This is why I always look at the zoomed out graph. It’s so easy to miss the real story looking at any one slice of it.

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    Elon’s favorite combo: lying and kicking the can down the road 🦵