I’ve heard people say they were both bad, and they were both most appealing to the millionaire/billionaire class - and I would agree - but I really haven’t seen any significant number of people that think they were both equally bad. Maybe one now and then, but certainly not enough that it has stuck in memory.

The topic is about the genocide happening in Palestine. You said:

The “a vote for Kamala is a vote for genocide” people were literally saying before the election that Palestinian genocide cannot get worse because genocide is genocide.

So I guess this isn’t worse?

Also about Palestine.

I simply pointed out to you that this is nothing new and was happening under the Dems, and has been happening for decades, and then you decided to bring up “concentration camps in the U.S.”.

The conversation was not about that.

Why are you shifting goal posts so much and being so antagonizing? Are you just embarrassed that you fell for propaganda and don’t want to admit it? Or are you consciously trying to help spread propaganda and make people forget the Dems supported Genocide?

Either way you are certainly not helping the image that internet forum mods are insufferable people. I’m moving on from this conversation.

Ok? I don’t disagree, but that’s not what this conversation is about. We are talking about Palestinian genocide and specifically the occupation of the West Bank. And either way, I haven’t heard anyone on Lemmy say Trump isn’t worse for the US.

This is from June 2020.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he is planning to effectively annex parts of the occupied West Bank in what would be a major - and highly controversial - act.

This is from July 2023.

Israel Is Officially Annexing the West Bank

A quiet bureaucratic maneuver by Netanyahu’s government has begun transferring control over the occupied territory from military to civilian leadership—violating international law.

Here’s an entire wiki page about all they’ve been doing in the West Bank since 1967.

This is nothing new, it’s just a next step that would have been taken regardless.

This is from June 2020.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he is planning to effectively annex parts of the occupied West Bank in what would be a major - and highly controversial - act.

This is from July 2023.

Israel Is Officially Annexing the West Bank

A quiet bureaucratic maneuver by Netanyahu’s government has begun transferring control over the occupied territory from military to civilian leadership—violating international law.

Here’s an entire wiki page about all they’ve been doing in the West Bank since 1967.

If you think this is new and is only happening because of Trump, you haven’t been paying attention and are falling for propaganda.

I don’t do it, but I’d like to. The few times I tried it I quite enjoyed it, it’s just hard to find a place near me where I can practice archery. It’s quite fun, I think.

There are more articles out there reporting on the same thing. Just because it might not fit your preconceived notions, or the narrative that you have already decided on, it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

Here, for example, if you scroll down:

We’ve just heard from two people from Britain’s Jewish community who attended the football match in Amsterdam.

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“We got to one of the central areas and we saw mopeds turn up and some guys started beating an Israeli guy going back to his hotel," he says, adding they were referring to his religion and stomping on his head.

(…)

“Shortly after, the same men that had attacked the Israeli came up to us right into our personal space, saying are you Jewish? We said no, we are British," he says.

(…)

“They were looking for Jews not just Israelis,” he says.

This coming from British men, as reported by the BBC. BBC also release this article a couple of day ago; do you think they are just running propaganda for Israel?

Just because Israel is committing genocide in Palestine, you don’t have to condone or try to downplay this type of behavior. You can support Palestine and still acknowledge that this behavior was grounded in antisemitism. Or do you find it unlikely that in central Europe, and with the rise of the far right, there are Nazis and other antisemites? Not to mention football hooligans are usually quite right wing.

Cartoon violence inflicted on a rude person displayed in a comic strip has somehow started a war about “incels” and “toxic masculinity”; meanwhile, I’ve never watched Sesame Street and I was over here thinking Big Bird was a girl.