• sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz
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    6 months ago

    Article I Section 8 Clause 15 Calling Militias

    To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

    I have no idea how the Constitution, which is so clear about the use of militia, has morphed into this fucked up 2A gunfucker bullshit.

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    Yeah this is similar to what I always tell these idiots. "You all know the government has tanks right. How many tanks y’all got? Three Broncos, an F-1f0, and a tractor? I’m sure those will hold up just fine to 120 mm cannon.

  • merthyr1831@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    Every time this fucking meme is made I’m reminded that the US military is currently being embarrassed in the red sea by a non-state actor with zero air superiority, which began itself with a thousand-or-so civilians with AK47s.

    That or how Israel is currently struggling to achieve any kind of military victory against two groups of lightly-armed militias which rely on scavenged and hand-made explosives to defeat state-of-the-art tanks.

    Let’s not even remind ourselves about the Taliban.

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      In fairness Israel isn’t struggling to beat Hamas. They could quite handily just carpet bomb the place to oblivion and kill 2 million people. It’s not really any bigger than Grozny, and we saw what even the Russians managed to do to that.

      But that doesn’t tend to sit well with anyone, not even the US. Better to commit genocide by making the survivors leave and stealing their land, rather than going full holocaust on them.

      Still, they’ve killed 2% of Gaza in a year. Give them 50 more and there won’t be a Gaza Strip.

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      I’m reminded that the US military is currently being embarrassed in the red sea by a non-state actor with zero air superiority

      Houthi rebels in Yemen are leveraging the mathematics of actuarial accounting to shut down the Red Sea. The cost of sending a ship into a free-fire zone skyrockets, compared to the cost of simply sailing around the Horn of Africa.

      If the Americans were doing the flotilla strategy of the WW2 era - where FDR realized he could build cheap concrete shipping vessels faster than the Germans could sink them - then the Houthis would be an ugly nuisance rather than an insurmountable stopgap.

      But international shipping has a zero-margin for losing ships. They’re not sending these things out on the ocean with the expectation of some attrition.

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      People who drop these kinds of memes still think warfare is carried out and progresses like it did in the Napoleonic era: two orderly opposed fronts clashing head-to-head in theaters with well-defined boundaries - where the adversary with more guns/people/resources win. Because more guns/people directly equates to military power, right?

      These folks would do well to spend even the slightest amount of time learning about fourth generational, guerilla war.

      Let’s take this meme back a couple hundred years and cast OP as a counter revolutonary American at the onset of the revolutonary war.

      /*Wants to have muskets to fend off british empire

      /*british empire:

      Starts to seem silly when you realize even our founding fathers were doing guerilla warfare not long ago.

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      Okay, so what’s your idea? You’re going to give up your freedoms for some temporary safety?

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          Every freedom. You’re giving the government a green light to do whatever they want to you. Two pure examples of this is China and Russia. How do you think tyrannical regimes come along? By taking away your ability to defend yourself. This has been shown in history multiple times.

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                This is objectively true. I have the freedom to go to college without being in crippling debt, the freedom to take 5 weeks of paid vacation every year, the freedom to go to a doctor without fear of bankruptcy, the freedom to travel or move to another country at will…

                Living in the US has literally no upside.

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                  Haha and how much are you getting taxed up your arse for all the ‘free’ stuff exactly? Good luck with the third mortgage so you can keep up with tax payments while you freeze your arse off this winter and half your children die due to malnourishment.

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    This shows ignorance in history but also understanding of warfare. There are too many examples of this: Vietnam as a historical example and Afghanistan as a recent one. Let’s not forget what’s going on in Israel rn vs all the proxies. It’s not necessary to have advanced weaponry to fight a war.

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      Vietnam as a historical example and Afghanistan as a recent one.

      The biggest asset these countries had in their favor was distance from the American industrial core. First Nations people employed many of the same techniques used in Vietnam and Afghanistan but were ruthlessly slaughtered. Guerrilla movements in Latin America - the FARK in Columbia and socialists in Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador got massacred by American military power. These countries are wholly within the US sphere of influence now.

      Let’s not forget what’s going on in Israel rn vs all the proxies.

      Israel is a textbook case of advanced weaponry tilting the playing field. Air superiority, naval support from the US, and a high tech anti-missile/anti-personal system along with one of the most advanced spy networks in the world all allow this relatively tiny nation to punch far outside its weight class. By contrast, less developed countries like Egypt, Iraq, Libya, and Sudan routinely serve as punching bags for more advanced states.

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        Sure, but a large portion of their fighting against the French and Americans was through guerilla warfare and tactics.

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          Yeah, and the only reason they won is because it was a logistical nightmare for the country on the other side of the world.

          That wouldn’t be the case for a civil war. They have all their army equipment right there.