“Republicans want to sanction the ICC simply because they don’t want the rules to apply to everyone,” said Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Massachusetts) on the House floor on Thursday.
McGovern highlighted that Republicans are moving to erode human rights while ignoring urgent issues within the U.S.
“We have a natural disaster unfolding in California right this second…. We have a gun violence epidemic, as we see massacres in our schools nearly every single day. And families are unable to make ends meet because they’re being ripped off by billionaire corporations,” said McGovern. “All those challenges, and this is what the out of touch elitist billionaire Republican party wants to waste time on. Sanctioning the ICC.”
I liked Jim McGovern already, but I like him more, now.
Yeah, he fucking nailed it.
McNailed it
Also wonder if the fact that he’s, uh, governing (?) is some nomnative determinism
Sounds reasonable, but the name? It’s like they’re not even trying to hide the fact we’re in a simulation any more.
45 democrats need to get fucking primaried.
AIPAC is ready to fund them
Honestly, campaign on that.
“My opponent supports genocide. They’ve received xxx,xxx dollars from AIPAC. They’re being funded by foreign interests because they put those interests before you.”
And to any dem politicians out there thinking about it- AIPAC and Netanyahu fucked Biden. They are not your ally. They are not your friend.
Tried that. Just say that eggs will be cheaper, doesn’t matter if it’s true.
They aren’t going to be cheaper so add that line in.
They took X amount of money from AIPAC to put foreign interests above your family affording groceries. Isn’t it time to actually focus on Americans?
Yes, but then they’ll be accused of anti-Semitism because people don’t understand the difference between Israel and Jewish people
They already are, and you are suggesting democrats become feckless cowards.
Learn to hit back. You’ll feel better.
Become?
Even more so?
There’s always room to become even more cowardly.
Oh no accusations! Republicans accuse people of all sorts of dumb shit, you really gonna fall for that old trick?
Yes… yes you will.
I worry that’s exactly it.
Then we lose while making AIPAC spend money that would otherwise have been put towards further entrenching foreign influence.
It’s government backed, you can’t outspend an industrial nation on volunteer donations across every candidate.
If their candidates are going to win either way, I would rather them have to spend money keeping them in office than use that money for genocide.
The list copied by hand from https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/20257
Sorry for any errors
- Ansari (AZ)
- Bell (MO)
- Cherfilus-McCormick (FL)
- Cisneros (CA)
- Craig (MN)
- Cuellar (TX)
- Davis (NC)
- Frankel (FL)
- Gillen (NY)
- Golden (ME)
- Goldman (NY)
- Gonzalez (TX)
- Gottheimer (NJ)
- Horsford (NV)
- Landsman (OH)
- Latimer (NY)
- Lee (NV)
- Levin (CA)
- McBath(GA)
- McClain Delaney (MD)
- Menendez (NJ)
- Meng(NY)
- Moskowitz(FL)
- Norcross(NJ)
- Pallone(NJ)
- Panetta(CA)
- Pappas (NH)
- Perez(WA)
- Peters (CA)
- Riley (NY)
- Ryan (NY)
- Schneider (IL)
- Schrier (WA)
- Soto (FL)
- Stevens (MI)
- Subramanyam (VA)
- Suozzi (NY)
- Sykes (OH)
- Thanedar (MI)
- Torres(NY)
- Vargas (CA)
- Veasey (TX)
- Wasserman Schultz (FL)
Major EDIT: Originally copied the list from the last time this bill was introduced, it has now been corrected
Fucking evil rats, all of them. Reichstag rodents.
of course that rat wasserman schultz voted for it.
People like that make me want to believe in God, just so I’m comforted by their eventual placement in hell.
It would be nice if this were sorted alphabetically by state, but thank you regardless!
- Ansari (AZ)
- Cisneros (CA)
- Levin (CA)
- Panetta(CA)
- Peters (CA)
- Vargas (CA)
- Cherfilus-McCormick (FL)
- Frankel (FL)
- Moskowitz(FL)
- Soto (FL)
- Wasserman Schultz (FL)
- McBath(GA)
- Schneider (IL)
- McClain Delaney (MD)
- Golden (ME)
- Stevens (MI)
- Thanedar (MI)
- Craig (MN)
- Bell (MO)
- Davis (NC)
- Pappas (NH)
- Gottheimer (NJ)
- Menendez (NJ)
- Norcross(NJ)
- Pallone(NJ)
- Horsford (NV)
- Lee (NV)
- Gillen (NY)
- Goldman (NY)
- Latimer (NY)
- Riley (NY)
- Ryan (NY)
- Suozzi (NY)
- Torres(NY)
- Meng(NY)
- Landsman (OH)
- Sykes (OH)
- Cuellar (TX)
- Gonzalez (TX)
- Veasey (TX)
- Subramanyam (VA)
- Perez(WA)
- Schrier (WA)
EDIT: Corrected when I realized I copied from the last time this was voted on
Very kind of you, thank you.
Not surprised that Dean Phillips (MN) voted for this, but I am mildly surprised Angie Craig (MN) did. Her district is purple tho. Still shitty
Cuellar (TX)
Votes like this are why the party worked so hard to quash the Cisneros campaign.
75% of Democrats voted against it and 100% of Republicans supported it. The problem in this country is Democrats, because a portion of them side with Republicans sometimes.
Honestly the fact that 75% of Democrats voted against it is actually kinda surprising. In the past close to 100% of both parties were knee-jerk pro-Israel votes. This means there’s actually a good chance it won’t pass the senate. If people wanna call their senator instead of complaining online, maybe it won’t. I’m in DC so I’m allowed to just complain online until you give me my two senators.
Do the 75% of the Democrats call out and throw out the 25%? Like the whole ACAB thing, how are these people allowed to represent the party?
Because their constituents voted for them.
The DNC allowed them into the party.
No, their state Democratic party did. Because they won a primary election.
Democratic primaries being famously neutral and all.
There is no requirement that the party keep you. You can keep your seat. The people gave you your seat. The party gave you it’s name and backing. The party can publicly disavow you at any time.
That’s true of Trump and Hitler as well, does that mean the Dems are happy to be on the same platform as them?
lmao why would the “representatives” care
If fewer Republicans voted for it, more Democrats would have.
I’d like to see a breakdown of this idea. Some people say Democrats seem to perfectly shore up votes to push through conservative shit, but the idea is the same color as “it’s them vs us.”
I can’t be an American. There’s no way my politics are this divorced from the average person and I’m still an American.
(https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba/)[The bottom 90% of income earners have a statistically zero level of influence on policy.]
It’s not you who isn’t American, it’s the current governing body.
Then why is it every time we vote I feel less American?
Because the options you get to pick from are also unamerican. And you get to choose between supporting unamerican and supporting facism. And that’s not a choice that leads one to patriotism.
No, the options are entirely American, and that’s the problem.
It’s “the land of the free and the home of the brave”
Not the intelligent.
Not the compassionate.
Not the effective
Free and brave.
I mean sure, if you look at the average citizenry. But if you look at the goals, it’s no surprise you are disappointed.
I’m a (non-combat, undeployed, medically discharged) veteran, and tbh I regretted it within a few years of joining up because I realized a lot of things. And it’s really the same thing as civic participation. We are sold a myth, and over time realize the truth is that the people we have to pick from don’t share the same ideals we were led to believe they would have.
So I totally agree with you, but our current crop are, indeed, unAmerican regardless of what the population has been led to believe is totally fine.
Cue Lionel Hutz:
"Oh no, those printers messed this all up.
It’s the land of the Fee and the home of the slave.
Better remove this bar logo."
You’re not a 1%er, the only people our government represents. Culture wars are a distraction
If that were the case then people wouldn’t be continually voting the way they do. This is what we collectively want. It’s not like it’s a dictatorship.
Only approximately 30% of the eligible voters in this country voted for Trump. They are not the average person.
What we need now is some polling on the average person’s views on the ICC and this in particular.
Why bother? Polling on issues doesn’t matter. If it did, we would have universal healthcare, a higher minimum wage, and universal background checks for purchasing firearms.
EDIT: and legal cannabis nationwide.
I agree that it doesn’t matter, but I was commenting within the context of what the other person said.
When will US truly have a centre left party atleast?
Considering we have a far right and a controlled opposition party, never.
Probably after we switch from a First-past-the-post voting system to something more representative.
Then people could vote outside the two party system without a spoiler effect.
We can make these changes at the state level. Alaska recently voted to keep using Ranked Choice voting. Conservatives were mad because Ranked Choice voting allowed alaskans to choose a more moderate conservative over Sarah Palin and pushed to have a referendum to go back to FPTP voting.
So why do Blue states use FPTP voting when it’s clear republicans prefer it?
I dont think FPTP is a problem, my country also have FPTP but we have diverse range of parties having significant influence. Electoral college is the real issue
Dems prefer it for the exact same reasons. It makes things so much easier for them.
Or centre right, Biden was the closest they’ve been to centre right so they replaced him with a candidate further right
(Yes you can point out random other centre right members but they haven’t had power in the party)
When people on the left stop just circle-jerking on the Internet and actually get involved in their state and local Democratic parties, vote in the primaries and run for office.
volunteers to run for office
gets told by Dems that they’re not rich enough
You too huh?
We’ve got 4 years (assuming something doesn’t happen) to create a resistance party and get a candidate with enough charisma and followers to win an election.
