Plot twist: He lives in Arizona where the whole state does that
M night shamallamadingdong twist - He lives in part of the reservation that does observe daylight savings.
Indiana used to (mostly) ignore it, then I moved to L.A. and had to get used to it, then I moved back to Indiana a decade later and they’d started doing it. Argh!
My dad did that one year lol. Refused to change his clocks or personal routine. Dunno if he was able to stick with it or not — but it was funny to hear him talk so seriously about why he “refuses to abide by such an arbitrary concept that makes his life harder, by having to adjust his body’s schedule”
His face had such a straight up “nope, fuck all that” look about it, it cracked me up lmao
I admire the commitment but if all you care about is routine and you can manage to be offset for some amount of time, just spend a week changing it 10 minutes each day. 10 minutes won’t mess with your body and you’ll be synced with everyone else in under a week.
The amount of times I’ve heard someone say ‘its for the farmers’ as if farmers have ever given a fuck what the clock says.
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Farmer here. I like daylight saving time. It saves us from getting up at 4:30am during the summer. Now if yall want to stay on daylight time year-round and not get on standard time in the winter, well that is just fine by me.
So what if the clock says 4:30 am? It’s the same time in that you’re working the same daylight. All removing it would do for you is change the number on your clock, but for the people who work on set schedules it would change our needing to fuck with our sleep schedules twice a year
Props to this man. Animals don’t follow daylight savings and it’s easier to keep a farm on standard time.
No, daylight savings was not invented for farmers
Amen. It’s like cutting the foot off a blanket and sewing it to the top, imagining you have a longer blanket, to borrow an analogy.
“Excuse me sir on the tractor, what time is it?”
“It’s who gives a fuck o’clock, city boy.”
research has proven time after time that the practice doesnt actually save energy or time in the modern age
That’s what I do with the automated cat feeders. Cats do not observe daylight savings time.
I work for a Chinese company and my colleagues treat daylight savings time as an inexplicable religious ritual that they indulgently accommodate us ptimitives iin.
It is a ridiculous thing, but it doesn’t strike them as odd that their own country has just one timezone despite being wider than the USA?
I feel the same as a programmer. Also time zones.
I would totally agree if Beijing didn’t force the rest of China to use their time zone, lol. Noon in Western China is nuts to experience.
Sure he does, becsuse all time-measuring devices of any sort in his house are analogue and have to be changed manually, and none them have phones which automatically corrects the time.
So in essences they have some clocks in theirs houses which are off by an hour for four months a year. They still use the time everyone else uses, because that’s how time works.
Digital clocks were a thing long before the internet.
Digital in sense of how they displayed time, sure, but not digital in how they update it. Not connected.
Not online. Offline clocks, I should’ve said.
Who would think digital clocks are newer than the Internet wth
Oh, sure they are. The one I’m using has been around for 50 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCF77
Half the clocks sold here do support it, and even many “analog” (as in the clock face) ones.
The time-keeping in Central Europe is a bit different than ours here in the Nordics I see.
Either I’m so high that I’ve forgotten, or I learned something new from reading that. Thanks. TIL.
You can pretty easily disable automatic daylight savings time adjustments on most devices, even my car has the option.
Aye you can. But I just don’t believe in a whole family pretending to live in a different time than everybody else’s for 4 months.
I do believe in lazy shits who don’t manage to change all the clocks which don’t get automatically updated, but for that person to actually put in effort to dodge the Daylight savings time? Not believable imo. You’d have to be really fucking obstinate. And you’d have to get yourself wife and children to do it as well.
I wouldn’t call myself a lazy shit just because I don’t care to update the clock on my fucking microwave, oven and kitchen scale. Why do all these devices have clocks anyways it does not make sense.
So you can time food cooking.
A timer works independent of whatever the current time is because it only needs to count down the passage of time. Also everyone already has multiple clocks on walls, wrists and phones.
There are lakes, ponds and puddles that exist beyond any particular ocean, if you can grasp the analogy.
I don’t know what you mean. I asked why do we need clocks on ovens. You said “to time cooking” but you can have a timer without a clock so it is still not needed and your answer is invalid.
Seems like a pretty reasonable course for a farmer to take. Livestock don’t have clocks, after all.
If it’s only four months then he doesn’t care about standard time, we are actually on daylight savings time for the majority of the year.
Which is pretty wild when you think about it. The darkest, coldest, most depressing time if the year we let the sun set super early.
Ok but hes actually got it backwards. Standard time is those four months in winter, and we use daylight savings time during the summer.
I’ve never heard anyone who likes DST… this thread confirms my bias. Arizona has it right. We have internet now, no need to change clocks, just update your schedules for the season.
I don’t understand why so many people care about it. It’s never been a bother other than that one night you lose an hour of sleep.
There’s a spike in car accidents, accidental deaths and general loss of productivity for around a week at both times when we change the clock every year.
A single person losing an hour of sleep is manageable, but it becomes problematic when it’s EVERYONE. It literally kills people.
I like DST. I just don’t like changing the clocks. Permanent DST would be the ideal imo
They tried that for a year or two in the 70s. Everyone hated it.
Who is “they”? Also, most of the world doesn’t have DST and they seem to be doing okay.
I would go one step further, just get rid of timezone completely and just get up at different times depending on where you are on the planet.
Please think how confusing this would be to talk to your overseas friends. It doesn’t actually solve the issue, just pushes the confusion into a different metric that is also hard to track. People in 23/24 time zones will also have a “different” schedule to adapt to.
“It’s 10AM here. What time is it there?” “Also 10AM.” “Oh. Um… the sunrise is at 7AM here, so 3 hours past that. What about you?” “Well, the sunset is at 5AM here, so it’s almost bedtime.” “Let’s meet tomorrow night then.” Do you mean when the clock says PM, or when it’s physically dark here?"
It’s a contrived example because you wouldn’t ask “what time is it there?” in a world where everywhere uses the same timezone
Yes. That’s the point. What question would you ask otherwise? Because it’s not a standard question that exists right now.
It’s introducing a new concept that’s just as confusing, but without a common reference point. “When is day for you?” “What’s your light schedule?”
If you want to use a single time for everyone, we already have GMT, no one uses it for daily use because it’s obtuse as hell if you don’t live within an hour or two of it.
Same question I asked Kusimulkku: do you not even know anyone who works second or third shift? Because we ask eachother about specific sleep schedule times all the time, ie, its a very standard question for most working people.
I used to work both.
With universal time, the answer is meaningless without also knowing where they live. If you have a friend who is traveling and says “Oh man, I stayed up until 3AM last night.” Did they go to bed early or late? Not only do you have to clarify their normal sleep schedule, you also have to figure out where they currently are before “3AM” has any relevant meaning.
It’s objectively worse for communication. As I’ve mentioned to other posters, we already have GMT if you want to use that. Let me know how well people understand you when using only GMT for scheduling.
I’m glad GMT exists as the middle point for us to use personalized time zones, but don’t want to lose that “midday” is when the sun is high in the sky and “midnight” is partway through the dark time.
“Did they go to bed early or late?” … they went to bed x hours ago. If anything, the math is easier when your 3am is also their 3am(although am/pm would also have to go out the window). Time-zones or no doesn’t tell you when they got up or started working without you asking either.
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Every appliance in my house (with a clock anyway) and all of our clocks (2 analog, 2 digital) require manual changing. None of them are connected to the internet, which I would think is the only way they would be able to. Do they really make “smart” analog clocks now?
Edit: my car is somewhere in between. It’ll “automatically” change, but I have to turn it on/off. It’s basically just automated the action of moving the hour forward or back.
Radio controlled clocks exist. Not everything needs to be connected to the internet.
Some have some kind of date tracking built in. But it’s fairly rare.
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No. Cows need milking at the same time of day every day regardless of how humans fuck with the clock.
It’s a common myth that farmers want daylight savings, but farmers are actually usually quite opposed to it. Daylight savings was originally proposed as a way to conserve energy, but it wasn’t put into practice until the world wars, where energy conservation was actually important.
