• ogeist@lemmy.world
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      Well, would you look at that, if it ain’t the consequences of their own actions.

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        This doesn’t end well.

        What if it becomes a requirement of software not available outside of their OS?

        Of the CPU itself?

        DRM intensifies

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    Well there goes my strategy of turning off tpm to prevent a sneaky upgrade.

    What’s the current best way to prevent an unwanted Windows 11 upgrade?

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      You can still do that, the article is fucking stupid. If you don’t have the correct requirements you will never get Windows 11 officially. You can however create a custom install of Win 11 using tools like Rufus to bypass the TPM requirements.

      The point of the change is that now if you install it on an unsupported machine, you won’t get any official support; they’re not stopping you from messing with the OS installer but you will still NOT get the upgrade officially and if you do upgrade and find some issue they ain’t helping you.

      IIRC they used to pester users with this unsupported setup to upgrade to a correct setup and they won’t do that any more.

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        I don’t want Windows 11. It performs like shit. But I guarantee this will lead to sneaky upgrades.

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      Many people are going to say Linux. It’s probably annoying to hear, but its just the truth at this point. It probably seems daunting to switch over, but let me give you a very brief suggestion from a beginner on how to smooth over the transition.

      Load up youtube and watch a few videos reviewing linux distributions for beginners just to see what’s recommended. My personal recommendation is to stick with a distro that uses KDE Plasma as the desktop environment since it will be very familiar coming from Windows. Once you decide what looks best for you…

      Check and see if your computer has an available SATA port on the motherboard. If it does, grab yourself a SATA SSD and put your choice of a Linux distribution on it. Once Linux is up and running, set your BIOS to boot into Linux by default. Use Linux for everything you can and slowly migrate your workflow over to the new OS. Keep Windows as it is on its original drive and boot into it whenever you encounter something that doesn’t work or you haven’t set up on Linux yet. Don’t stress about rushing through this part. You have almost a year before Win10 is unsupported. Take your time and enjoy the process.

      Over time, your Linux OS will become very useful for you as you uncover more ways to use it instead of Windows and Windows will be reserved for those infrequent edge cases where your needs are not met by Linux. This decouples you from the Microsoft ecosystem, making their enshittification less impactful on your life. I followed this exact path and I’m now a near full-time Linux user with Nobara as my chosen distribution and I could not be happier. I love my PC again.

      The only thing I use Windows for now is sim racing games, as I haven’t yet dedicated time to find out how to get the expensive sim racing peripherals I own working on Linux yet. Apparently it’s possible and some people have had great success with it. This is something I will be actively working on over the coming year. Everything else I own runs perfect on Linux. I run a home studio so that means a lot of audio peripherals and specialized software. For 95% of my use case, Nobara just works.

      The transition will take some work, but in the end if you can get yourself away from dependence on Windows, the options and freedom available to you expand like crazy. Its worth it just to show Microsoft that no, they no longer have a stranglehold on desktop PC users. The more we engage with non-mainstream options, the more the mainstream has to behave itself.

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      Linux.

      I say this as someone using Win11. I’m okay with using it, but if you don’t want to, then just go to Linux.

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      Using something other than windows as your primary OS, and interfacing with windows through a virtual machine where necessary.

      Not really a real solution, though, but some folks make it work pretty well.

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    I’m going to be honest here. If someone asks you for Windows help and you comment to tell them to use Linux, you’re an asshole, not clever.

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      I would say that depends on why they are asking for help, you have got to get to the root of the issue first.

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      Some people can’t see the problem because of the trees.

      If your problem is not with windows, but windows at it’s core… Then the solution is to move. You also have Mac if that makes you happy

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        The problem is that Linux just isn’t usable for the largest home computing demographic.

        Linux users can’t even agree on anything significant to make progress on the distros because they’d rather abandon it and try again in a new setting. It feels like a modpack of the month, year, etc, at this point. Unstable, filled with crashes and bugs, even fedora. Incomplete documentation with half defined terms and uses due to the constant splintering. It makes it worse to learn than whatever the fuck is Microsoft’s shit documentation.

        I guess you too only see the trees. A solution is not to leave the forest but to bend the trees to your will. Wherever the forest is, instead of cowering before it. A shoddy tradesman blames his tools and all that.

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      I’m going to be honest here. If someone asks you for Windows help and you comment to tell them to use Linux, you’re an asshole, not clever.

      If every year people ask for help because they’ve been weakened by a COVID infection, yet they refuse free vaccinations, then they are the assholes.

      Stop defending tax-evading unethical monopolies who don’t give a crap about their users, only their profits. And stop defending lackadaisical people who have the potential to literally change the world by being part of a snowball that could eventually avalanche Microsoft’s monopoly away. Instigating change here could be so easy. For goodness’ sake we’re talking about a change of software, not sacrificing one’s life by taking a bullet or shooting one. Stand up for what you believe in. To hell with Windows. To hell with Microsoft.

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      “There’s no elephant in this room.”

      Windows is the problem. There’s the elephant. Your choice.

      If not, I guess just keep waiting it out. I’m sure it will get better any day now.

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        Just like using gas cars is your choice when you coulda been using something open source like rickshaws

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        I’m not the one seeking help here, just calling out poor behavior. You’re helping no one with this constantly being posted.

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    As a result, some consumers resorted to purchasing TPM modules for their existing hardware, while others turned to customized Windows 11 ISOs that bypassed the TPM requirement entirely.

    Who is doing this?!? If you are a business user, your company should pay for a new PC. If you are a gamer, you have a year to upgrade your MB. Everyone else has a year to figure out if Linux is right for them. At this point, Linux can perfectly cover most non-business users or those who are not multiplayer online gamers.

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      No, it can’t, because it is not even remotely as user friendly - and even if it was, the mere fact that its user experience is extremely different makes a switch quite difficult to anyone but the most basic users (who need little more than a web browser).

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        LOL. Linux is what I install for elderly family members precisely because, depending on the distro, it is moron proof. Not every distro is Arch or SuSE.

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          Do your elderly family members belong to the aforementioned group of most basic users?

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      The amount of corporate environments running old builds, 3+ patches behind or pro/home versions would shock anybody with an inkling of security awareness.

      If you’re going to run Windows as a business and especially if you’re going to rely on Defender, you gotta be on top of shit. Most are woefully far outside of that