cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/22423685

EDIT: For those who are too lazy to click the link, this is what it says

Hello,

Sad news for everyone. YouTube/Google has patched the latest workaround that we had in order to restore the video playback functionality.

Right now we have no other solutions/fixes. You may be able to get Invidious working on residential IP addresses (like at home) but on datacenter IP addresses Invidious won’t work anymore.

If you are interested to install Invidious at home, we remind you that we have a guide for that here: https://docs.invidious.io/installation/..

This is not the death of this project. We will still try to find new solutions, but this might take time, months probably.

I have updated the public instance list in order to reflect on the working public instances: https://instances.invidious.io. Please don’t abuse them since the number is really low.

Feel free to discuss this politely on Matrix or IRC.

  • flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
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    YouTube will not change until people stop using it. And people do not want to put up with the inconvenience of not having a YouTube type service again for the amount of time it would take for YouTube to change or a viable competitor to take their place, it really is that simple.

    Are YouTube and Google terrible? For sure, but it only got this way because the only backstop to holding them accountable, the consumer, has proven that they will choose putting up with shitty products and services in the name of convenience 9 times out of 10.

    Same reasons that ad tiers are gaining a foothold in streaming services like Netflix. The consumer has shown they are fine with it.

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      Time to pirate YT content and upload to usenet to be automatically downloaded using sonarr

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        Yes but literally throwing together a script to download the days subscription videos to a jellyfin media drive would be stupidly simple.

    • Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.world
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      Same reasons that ad tiers are gaining a foothold in streaming services like Netflix. The consumer has shown they are fine with it.

      Yep, I remember when Netlfix first put it out there that they would start with the ads, and everyone on reddit was like, “Canceling my Netflix right now!!”

      Netflix is doing just fine without the 5 redditors who actually did cancel it. lmao

      • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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        the problem is so many people are willing to say they’ll take a stand.

        but when the time comes, the mindnumbingly overwhelming majority suck it up, because they must have their precious shiny and can not suffer even the mildest of inconvenience.

        Its my biggest gripe in gaming, but its a enormous gripe just in general, with everything. because it doesnt matter if you are talking about appliances, creative software, video games, streaming services, stores, etc.

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    i absolutely despise youtube. these fuckers are putting ads on paused videos now, and then this.

    they will never get better. only worse. we need regulations badly.

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        Works for Albania.

        Its not like google fucking earned that money anyways. You don’t earn billions of dollars.

        Think about it. If you earned a million dollars a year, you’d be set for life. If you lived for a full hundred years you’d have only made 1/10th of a billion dollars. Despite the fact that its still more money than either of us will probably ever see.

        The people who operate google have billions with an s at the end. Think about the hardest working person you’ve known. Think about how little money they made.

        Now ask yourself, what did the people with billions do to earn that money? How hard did they have to work to justify it, and how is that level of work even humanly possible? How would a bunch of spoiled overgrown trustfund fratboys find it in themselves do that work?

        They fucking don’t. The only people who get that rich do it by cheating, and stealing, and fucking people over. Those fuckers owe us a lot more than video streaming services.

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        You’ll never get upvotes for telling people this reality, but you are of course completely correct.

        If only we saw as much enthusiasm for voting generally as we see for taking ads off YT. Maybe we’d actually get a government that was willing to regulate titans.

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    Wow all this bullying is really convincing me to go back to their shitty platform.

    If i can’t access my fav creators anymore itl just motivate me to do sm productive, like building web3

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    People can always just stop using YouTube. It’s getting laughable the level of Stockholm syndrome-like addiction people have for that shit service.

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      I don’t really think Stockholm syndrome applies here. I don’t watch YouTube out of some irrational bond with the platform. I watch YouTube because it’s literally the only place the creators I watch upload. I would absolutely follow the creators I watch to whatever platform the content is available on. Until then, I’m stuck with YouTube and ad blocking extensions.

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        I’m not saying it’s exactly the same. But there are definitely people that whine all day and night about it, and then go pacify themselves by watching even more YouTube videos.

        If I hate something as much as people seem to hate YouTube, I can easily stop using it. But then again, I have enough strength of conviction to do so. I’m certainly not going to financially support them by patronizing their service. And this futile attempt to circumvent their add service was is only making them more clever about blocking people from doing so.

        YouTube will always win this.

        Period. End of story.

        The only way to beat them is to not play. I guarantee you if the lose 50% of their viewers. They’ll change their tune.

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    People should learn to live without YT, instead of making an existential drama about it (about its ads, really).

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      This is the way. Let those content creators sucking up your time be the background noise they were always meant to be.

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        tell me you don’t work in IT without telling me you don’t work in IT.

        YT is more than just thots in shorts and fake scumbag competition game show hosts.

        there’s a whole community of educators and creators that are genuinely useful and is the core of what YT used to be used for.

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          25 years in IT and I didnt need youtube.

          BUT, I prefer learning by reading, not videos.

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            I didn’t need help when I went to college. these lazy kids just need to get a paper route for the summer to pay for a semester or two. it couldn’t cost more than a couple hundred bucks for books and classes”

            what you did over your 25 year long career is irrelevant to what current people are going through. the rest of this is a rant on “boomer” mentality. I’m an xer myself, just sick of people perpetuating the broken ideals of the most spoiled generation.

            !

            I’ve been in IT just as long but in the last 10 years I have been asked to learn the following under threat of becoming “irrelevant”; cloud computing, big data analysis, cryptographic signing and tracking of data, machine learning, and the most recent artificial intelligence.

            how the fuck are we supposed to keep up with this and maintain our family/home and maintain friendships and maintain our sanity all while juggling the roles and responsibilities weighing us down at work.

            in 2021 I worked over 3200 hours in the year. that’s double 8s almost every single day. part of that time was training time I was forced to comply with to make sure “the company remains competitive.” it also doesn’t include the 16 hours of training over the weekends that I couldn’t claim because, “if you can’t perform the responsibilities given to you within office hours provided then perhaps you should work from the office under supervision.” I think we all know what that meant. want to know what I did with all that training? I’ll let you know as soon as I use it.

            point is, the world got fucked up, and greedy pieces of shit at the top make the smaller greedy pieces of shit greed harder, and so forth. when will it be enough? when can we stop working on frivolous bullshit that’s going to be dropped and abandoned when “the next big thing” shows up? when can we start building shit that matters so much that we can’t just abandon it?

            so, what’s this got to do with YT? if I could have watched 200 hours of training videos for free online instead of taking multiple courses, homework, tests, etc; I could spent more time with my kids, or hobbies, or doing whatever the fuck I want. instead, I was stuck doing busywork for some other assholes bonus.

            !<

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              This is insane. My career started three years ago. I’m Gen-Z. Never used YouTube for learning. We get it dude you like videos, most don’t and don’t learn that way. Videos are mostly for ads and grifting

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                it’s pitiful that you think a three year long career gives you the wisdom and ability to see what the next 35 years is going to need.

                sit down child, nobody asked you.

                Screenshot_20241015-145732_Firefox

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    You can still watch YouTube without ads using grayjay.app including sponsor block.

    Thanks to Louis Rossman

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    The elites don’t want you to know but “[y]ou may be able to get Invidious working on residential IP addresses (like at home)”

    Following their guide gives a local Invidious client, don’t forget to 1) copy their production compose file instead of using the one on git and 2) change “hmac_key”… from my experience setting up cron (crontab -e) to restart the docker container once per day keeps the Invidious docker healthy


    Edit: here are some alternatives for popular Google services. Not in anyway related to the above (smirk

    • Google itself: SearXNG (try searx.be first), one of the easiest services to self-host
    • Gmail/calendar: a lot of people seem to swear by one of Proton Mail, Tutanota or Mailbox.org. Self-hosting is possible but challenging
    • Google Drive: You mean Nextcloud?
    • Google maps: Organic Maps is actually getting pretty good now
    • Google Chrome: at the very least there is Chromium… obviously there is Firefox and Firefox forks (such as Librewolf), as well as other smaller browsers
    • Google Play: F-Droid hosts a lot of FOSS stuff, and there are alternative ways to access Play (such as Aurora Store)
    • Android: a bit more difficult… but there is LineageOS, GrapheneOS, and similar stuff
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      If you do this, I would be fully prepared to lose access to all your Google services along with anyone else who may use Google services on the same IP. Gmail, Play store, Chrome, etc, etc can easily be wiped out with a ban from Google and this can seriously fuck people’s day up if they’ve used Gmail and have 2FA setup on any external account.

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        I guess I forgot to take that into consideration… I’m not worried about Google banning my IP since I essentially don’t use any Google services at all and my home IP is hidden behind a wireguard tunnel, but yes that is a valid concern

        But I mean someone can just spin it up on their home network so… No way 192.168.0.1:3000 can get someone into trouble right

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          Like any other web services, Google can see the public ip your personal invidious instance is using to access youtube servers. The local 192.168.x.x ip are for internal access.