• Valmond@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Oh no lets stop helping Ukraine! /s

    Fuck Russia and their shenanigans. I mean if it was even them. Who cares?

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      5 days ago

      Not jumping to foregone conclusions is a good idea, no matter how likely a particular actor is, imo. And it’s quite likely that we’ll have to accept a degree of uncertainty for years. The Nord Stream sabotage wasn’t fully resolved either so far.

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        5 days ago

        Yeah, can’t have been the guys who were just threatening to disrupt undersea cables. It’s gotta be somebody else.

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        Yeah but there is the; looks like, talks like, walks like duck

        It’s probably a duck

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        4 days ago

        lemmy and its downvotes even though Nord Stream is a good example of transition from “bad Russia” to Ukraine most likely. I’m not saying that Russia is the most likely culprit, but a little caution should be in place.

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        4 days ago

        As the others already said, it’s most probably russia, they just threatened to do it and no one else have the motive. But also I said, who even cares? and still you have to respond a pre made text about uncertainty.

        No thanks.

        Also, no one is talking about the north stream pipeline (and no one cares at all about it, may it disappear), changing rhe goalpoasts is another bad actor technique, just saying.

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          4 days ago

          it’s most probably russia

          It is likely. But the way this thread developed, people were simply jumping to conclusions. I don’t like these reflexive accusations.

          pre made text

          Huh? No, it was written in the moment.

          changing rhe goalpoasts is another bad actor technique, just saying.

          I just referred to the obvious example for another high-seas sabotage action that wasn’t fully resolved yet, from the same war. The reason for that was to illustrate that it may take a while to see through spin.

          Not sure which goal posts you think were moved by this.